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Post by stagebyte on Aug 31, 2021 22:40:05 GMT
So how does this work?
Which musicals will be eligible for next years noms?
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Post by firefingers on Sept 1, 2021 0:47:02 GMT
Best New Musical:
Back To The Future
Moulin Rouge
Frozen
The Drifters Girl
The Last Five Years
Amelie?
Best Musical Revival:
Carousel
Caberet
Joseph and His Technicolour Dreamcoat
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Post by Mark on Sept 1, 2021 3:44:27 GMT
Best New Musical: Back To The Future Moulin Rouge Frozen The Drifters Girl The Last Five Years Amelie? Best Musical Revival: Carousel Caberet Joseph and His Technicolour Dreamcoat Last Five Years and Amelie won't count as they both previous ran at The Other Palace I believe. Cinderella also in new musical category. Anything Goes for Revival |
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Post by LaLuPone on Sept 4, 2021 1:16:22 GMT
Prince of Egypt for new musical as well presumably.
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Post by inthenose on Sept 4, 2021 12:09:57 GMT
Sutton Foster for best female actor in a musical.
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Post by forevercolours on Sept 4, 2021 16:48:01 GMT
Do we think CHF will get a nom for Cinderella? I saw the show, and while I didn’t really enjoy it, I do think she did a good job. Same with Rebeca Trehearn and VHB for supporting?
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Post by Jon on Sept 5, 2021 13:00:02 GMT
Prince of Egypt for new musical as well presumably. Prince of Egypt would have eligible last year I think as it ran for over 30 performances before they had to close. |
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Post by Mark on Sept 5, 2021 13:02:59 GMT
Prince of Egypt for new musical as well presumably. Prince of Egypt would have eligible last year I think as it ran for over 30 performances before they had to close. It wasn't eligible. Had to have opened by 18th Feb and it didn't open until the 25th. |
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Post by jgblunners on Sept 5, 2021 15:37:19 GMT
Do we think CHF will get a nom for Cinderella? I saw the show, and while I didn’t really enjoy it, I do think she did a good job. Same with Rebeca Trehearn and VHB for supporting? This is a tricky one to predict - I personally didn't think that Cinderella was good enough to warrant a lot of nominations, but given how warm the critics were towards it there may be a similar response from the Olivier panel.
At the moment I'd say the major contenders for the musical categories are Anything Goes and Carousel. Frozen and Back To The Future will likely also do well. For the plays I'm not sure - there are a few coming up (such as Camp Siegfried at the Old Vic and Macbeth at the Almeida) which could score lots of noms if they live up to the hype.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 5, 2021 19:05:28 GMT
Don't forget Cabaret is yet to open so possibility of revival and acting categories.
Also Moulin Rouge.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 6, 2021 6:52:31 GMT
I do think Cinderella will get nominations including Best New Musical. It’s been a terrible couple of years and that show has been perhaps the most high profile one battling through restrictions etc to open. Also the reviews have been strong.
Frozen will probably see some love, and most certainly Moulin Rouge- particularly across all design categories and choreography.
I think Back to the Futures chances are very slim except maybe design and supporting performances (Hugh Coles must be nominated- and win as far as I’m concerned).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 12:02:26 GMT
Joseph was nominated last year so probably won’t be again as it’s the same production.
Also Into The Woods at The Old Vic could be a contender for revival as well as Spring Awakening at the Almeida and Hex at the National for Best New Musical.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Sept 6, 2021 12:10:04 GMT
I wonder if there will be backlash if Sutton is nominated, or especially if she wins, considering what came out on twitter
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 6, 2021 12:11:43 GMT
Do we know the date for this years awards? There are enough nominations to make the nominations viable now. Do another in August 2022 and then back to the original date March 2023. Then a year doesn’t get skipped.
Can Hairspray get any nominations? I think not though. Also unlikely to get nominated but is Be More Chill eligible?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 12:47:44 GMT
Do we know the date for this years awards? There are enough nominations to make the nominations viable now. Do another in August 2022 and then back to the original date March 2023. Then a year doesn’t get skipped. Can Hairspray get any nominations? I think not though. Also unlikely to get nominated but is Be More Chill eligible? Sunday 3rd April 2022 at the Royal Albert Hall according to this - www.cornucopia-events.co.uk/olivier-awards/ (or even the 3th!) I thought the same about Hairspray. I can imagine it getting the odd nomination for the supporting cast i.e. Marisha Wallace, but would be surprised if it was up for Best Musical Revival or Michael Ball getting nominated again as he's already won it. I would also say the same goes with Singin in the Rain at the Sadler's Wells, even though the 2011 Chichester/Palace production didn't win and was just nominated. I don't know when specifically the cut-off date was but Be More Chill opened at the Other Palace in February 2020 so it was either eligible for last years but wasn't nominated, or it opened after so it could well be eligible for this year especially as it transferred to the Shaftesbury. Also with the news today of The Choir of Man transferring next month to the Arts, will that end up being classed as a musical? Also people say that Pride and Prejudice* (*sort of) is more like a musical however that's meant to be opening 1st October and it's not even on sale yet! |
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Post by sophie92 on Sept 6, 2021 12:59:04 GMT
Joseph was nominated last year so probably won’t be again as it’s the same production. Also Into The Woods at The Old Vic could be a contender for revival as well as Spring Awakening at the Almeida and Hex at the National for Best New Musical. Into the Woods opens in April and so won’t be eligible until the 2023 awards. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 13:00:45 GMT
Joseph was nominated last year so probably won’t be again as it’s the same production. Also Into The Woods at The Old Vic could be a contender for revival as well as Spring Awakening at the Almeida and Hex at the National for Best New Musical. Into the Woods opens in April and so won’t be eligible until the 2023 awards. Oops. Thought it was opening sooner than that! |
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Post by Mark on Sept 6, 2021 13:26:41 GMT
I wonder if there will be backlash if Sutton is nominated, or especially if she wins, considering what came out on twitter More backlash if she's not nominated to be honest. It's an award for best Actress in a musical, not for actress with lots of twitter comments. |
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Post by inthenose on Sept 6, 2021 17:45:50 GMT
I wonder if there will be backlash if Sutton is nominated, or especially if she wins, considering what came out on twitter More backlash if she's not nominated to be honest. It's an award for best Actress in a musical, not for actress with lots of twitter comments. Walking out of the theatre, I said to my companion "most obvious Olivier winning performance in years". I would bet anybody £100 that she wins it. To not even get a nomination would be probably the biggest snub in theatre awards history. The Twitter mob tried - and failed - and thankfully have lost interest now. She's not exactly a prime SJW target - they've since moved onto people who actually deserve some ire, like Roy Chubby Brown. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Sept 6, 2021 20:38:13 GMT
I wonder if there will be backlash if Sutton is nominated, or especially if she wins, considering what came out on twitter That was a storm In a teacup created by about 3 people. If she’s not nominated- they should cancel the awards. |
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Post by fiyerorocher on Sept 6, 2021 20:51:35 GMT
A lot of PoC considered her actions to be racist, and she never publicly apologised. I don't think it's fair to consider that a 'storm in a teacup'. If she's nominated, people will definitely have something to say.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 6, 2021 20:59:05 GMT
This thread isn’t about Sutton Foster it is about the Oliviers, I haven’t read the sewage pipe called Twitter so thankfully ignorant of the circumstances.
This thread is about the Oliviers, which thankfully I am not ignorant of Sutton’s tour de force performance, she will get nominated and should win.
So if the Oliviers are in April next year, looks like we are going back to the regular date, so therefore we miss a year.
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Post by fiyerorocher on Sept 6, 2021 21:24:49 GMT
Yes, this thread is about the Oliviers. I was discussing potential Olivier nominations. Therefore I think said messages are entirely and completely on topic, thank you. Being 'ignorant' of racism in the theatre community is not something one should be 'thankful' for. I would imagine her actions and the response to them will be taken into consideration by those making the decisions, because they risk bad PR to let her win. Of course the Oliviers have never been the most progressive of awards, so perhaps they won't care. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by jgblunners on Sept 6, 2021 21:27:33 GMT
At the moment I think the only person who could steal the crown from Sutton is Jessie Buckley - she’s home grown talent making a big name for herself and has the potential to give a real star performance.
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Post by poster J on Sept 6, 2021 22:36:53 GMT
Yes, this thread is about the Oliviers. I was discussing potential Olivier nominations. Therefore I think said messages are entirely and completely on topic, thank you. Being 'ignorant' of racism in the theatre community is not something one should be 'thankful' for. I would imagine her actions and the response to them will be taken into consideration by those making the decisions, because they risk bad PR to let her win. Of course the Oliviers have never been the most progressive of awards, so perhaps they won't care. We'll just have to wait and see. If there was going to be any bad PR it would have happened now, instead she is getting pretty much universal raves, though personally I think she's a bit overhyped and think it is entirely possible Jessie Buckley will blow her out of the water and run away with the Best Actress statuette. People are entitled to be offended, but equally people are entitled not to demand she is completely cancelled. Everyone can make their own decision on that and people across the spectrum of ethnicities and creeds have done that judging by the diversity of the audience when I saw Anything Goes. |
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Post by jennapatchell on Sept 10, 2021 0:04:32 GMT
Prediction:
Best New Musical - Frozen
Best Revival - Jerusalem
Best Musical Revival - Anything Goes
Best Actress - Sutton
Best Supporting Actress - Stephanie Mckeon
Best Lighting Design - Neil Austin
Best Set - Christopher Oram
Best Sound - Gareth Owen
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42ndBlvd
Ensemble
come and meet those dancing feet!
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Post by 42ndBlvd on Sept 10, 2021 8:18:14 GMT
Prediction: Best New Musical - Frozen Best Revival - Jerusalem Best Musical Revival - Anything Goes Best Actress - Sutton Best Supporting Actress - Stephanie Mckeon Best Lighting Design - Neil Austin Best Set - Christopher Oram Best Sound - Gareth Owen Backstage To The Future for set instead. Frozen may be beautiful looking but that car in BTTF is something else. |
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Post by jennapatchell on Sept 10, 2021 8:19:13 GMT
Prediction: Best New Musical - Frozen Best Revival - Jerusalem Best Musical Revival - Anything Goes Best Actress - Sutton Best Supporting Actress - Stephanie Mckeon Best Lighting Design - Neil Austin Best Set - Christopher Oram Best Sound - Gareth Owen Backstage To The Future for set instead. Frozen may be beautiful looking but that car in BTTF is something else. Not sure I agree. The set for BTTF is rather flat and dull, with the sole exception of the car. Frozen has the full package and is downright gorgeous. |
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