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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 19, 2017 14:09:56 GMT
Saw it last night. Enjoyed it a lot but agreed with many of the points raised here.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 16, 2017 23:18:12 GMT
I liked it but apart from the opening scene didn't find it scary at all. V reminiscent of Stranger Things which is basically a homage to Stephen King.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 14, 2017 19:50:57 GMT
Bertie Carvel is, for me, the only one who's pretty watchable. He is indeed. If only you didn't hate him so much that you just want to punch him in the face every time you see him. I think I still would though. Perhaps in the car park behind the pub after a glass or two of Shiraz but I still would. I can't imagine that would be especially difficult.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 14, 2017 11:17:34 GMT
I loved the chocolate box LLL and I also loved the OTT 80s King John, and I've loved productions ranging from the very traditional (Globe pre-Rice) to the very modern and radical (Joe Hill-Gibbens YV work). People like a range of stuff, it mainly depends on whether it's done well.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 13, 2017 22:54:25 GMT
I loved that King John a lot and it stayed with me, so count me in the yay camp.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 8, 2017 12:59:31 GMT
I saw an ad for a TV show called something like "Celebrities face their trolls" or something. Apparently some celebs get masses of vile tweets and death threats etc. I couldn't help but feel the problem could be solved by a press of a button and delete their social media. Sorted. Clearly they need it though..... Some actors are contractually obligated to have social media, and large social media followings can absolutely get you roles, especially in America. Besides why should people have to forgo a highly beneficial social experience because of criminals? You may as well say women shouldn't go out clubbing or pubbing if they don't want to be abused. On the other hand some people are far too thin-skinned and call anything other than praise "trolling."
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 7, 2017 21:53:15 GMT
Replying to a question about Follies cast recording
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 7, 2017 13:42:19 GMT
Chris' new play is going to be amazing, from everything I've heard about it. And of course lovely Jonjo's always endlessly watchable. I don't know why exactly the run is so limited but I'm liking the rep thing.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 7, 2017 12:39:22 GMT
The Globe once accidentally blocked me while I was working for them.
I'm not aware of being blocked by anyone apart from perhaps a few Trump trolls.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 7, 2017 12:38:11 GMT
Accounts set up for fringe shows that do nothing but tweet "our show opens xx date". That's not how you use social media for marketing.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 7, 2017 12:28:36 GMT
I almost never go to musicals so admit my ignorance (knew nothing about the show at all), but I really enjoyed this. The plot seems to go a bit skewwiff at Loveland and to make a big tonal jump, but the overall plot and acting is superb. The idea of these older people haunted by the ghosts of their younger selves. Gorgeous. Such an exciting feeling in the room last night.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 1, 2017 14:42:49 GMT
Oh, I didn't know that. She can **** off then. At least until her vocabulary expands a bit. #drydrydry
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 1, 2017 14:40:24 GMT
THR often paper less successful shows, so it depends how well it sells. Or if you're 30 or under you can always get £5 tickets through Masterclass. Alas I am the barest whisper over 30.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Sept 1, 2017 12:18:42 GMT
I don't think Prue is trying to be the new Mary Berry, I think Prue is trying to be the new Paul. She's come in and gone, "Screw this, I know far more about baking than you, I'm the Simon Cowell of this judging panel!" (though as catchphrases go "dry" is not a patch on "soggy bottom") and left Paul floundering. You can see him debating if he's supposed to be 'the nice one' now. Or maybe it's the editing trying to make him look like 'the nice one.' Whichever, it's not working. There is no kindly figure exuding warmth and being supportive of the bakers any more.
I'll put peppermint in a mini roll with a gun to my head.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 13:13:44 GMT
On the subject of SJW co-option: Are you familiar with "tinhats"? Or "Larries"? Basically fans who develop elaborate conspiracy theories involving male celebrities faking their relationships/marriages and children to either hide a secret gay relationships, or for reasons unknown. It's clearly all about sex and repressed sexual desire and internalised misogyny (and often very overt misogyny). Over the last few years there's been a trend of "tinhats" exploiting the SJW movement, claiming their actions (harassing their wives and girlfriends, writing graphic sexual fantasies about wanting to see two men together) are in fact a form of gay rights activism, and if you don't believe these men are secretly gay, you are a homophobe.
Edit: We are going to have to agree to disagree on the privilege/oppression quote. I think it's a brilliant and badly needed quote and my opinion is that it opens, rather than shuts down debate. IMO anyone who would feel silenced at being told to consider their own privilege is probably not someone interested in debating the issues.
My train is arriving now so going offline. Catch you all later.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 12:47:40 GMT
Your explanation ("It's a good quote but not a substitute for an argument") is substantially different from your original post ("the quote you posted does nothing but tell people to shut up") though. You may have meant that, but that's not what you actually said. Which is fine: we all misspeak sometimes. I just don't know why you can't say "I misspoke, I didn't mean that, I meant this" rather than acting like I'm stupid or unreasonable for taking your own words at face value.
I apologise because clearly I misinterpreted your post about oppression. I had no idea you were talking about feminism. I thought you were talking about black people being anti-white.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 12:17:06 GMT
Well I'd appreciate it if you didn't use phrases like " think you're being oppressed." There are a lot of people in the world who genuinely don't think racism/oppression exist. If we don't start from a position of accepting minority people's assessment of their own experiences, I don't see how any debate is possible. And we are all just usernames on screens. None of us know what each other's experiences and privileges are. I never suggested you were telling me or anyone else to shut up. Quotes like [the one you posted] do nothing except tell people they ought to shut up.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 11:50:19 GMT
I agree with everything you say except the last part. That quote is very famous and makes an excellent, excellent point. It is intended to start people thinking about the advantages they have, and how and why they feel about the perception they are losing some advantages. It's very odd to me that you consider anything other than blanket agreement to be telling you to "shut up."
Martello I'd like to ask you a question: how many family members have you personally had murdered simply for being the "wrong" colour/religion/sex/gender? Certain power structures DO oppress me, and oppress many other people.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 11:36:40 GMT
Good point, especially considering there is still so much pressure for gay actors to be closeted.
To take the thread in another direction: it's interesting to me that the theatre industry on a whole is very left-wing and liberal. Yet as this board shows, theatre audiences are split between left wing and right wing (sometimes very right wing), or a combination. To the right wingers amongst us: do you feel represented by theatre? Do you resent theatre's liberalism? How can we use theatre to breach these gaps?
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 11:20:33 GMT
Just because a handful exploit and abuse a concept that means the entire concept is terrible? Any political or social concept is open to abuse. The concept of communism (people sharing resources equally and working according to their ability) is sound but was exploited to justify mass oppression and mass slaughter.
Again: loss of privilege feels like oppression. People in majority groups whining that they only get most of the jobs and money and perks and power rather than all of it doesn't mean they are oppressed.
The SJ movement can be highly problematic. It's often quite ableist. The language policing often seen in SJ spaces discriminates against those who don't speak English as a first language or have less access to education. There is also a major problem with antisemitism in the SJ world and amongst the Left in general, and this has led to incidents where white supremacists groups have infiltrated SJ organisations in order to spread antisemitic propaganda, which is shocking.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 31, 2017 11:09:07 GMT
That is not what "privilege" means, or least it's not supposed to. It simply means acknowledging the various complex ways our identities affect our treatment in the world filled with unspoken systems of oppression and power interchanges (eg a patriarchy). A person can experience privilege in one respect and dis-privilege in another respect.
"When You're Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression"
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 30, 2017 0:14:42 GMT
Catherine Tate photobombed me once and I didn't realise till months later because the camera broke. I love her.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 30, 2017 0:13:08 GMT
I met Top Gear's James May once and he announced with great relish that he ate anything fans baked for him as long as it looked good.
I wish I was public-facing enough to get fans bringing me sweeties.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 30, 2017 0:09:58 GMT
I'm a terrible luvvie. I was with an actress friend recently and we spent a good few minutes taking the piss out of people who call each other "darling" then as we were saying goodbye she pointed out I had non-ironically called her "darling" without even realising it.
It's a terrible addiction, being a luvvie. There should be a support group. On the other hand there are worse things to be called than darling.
To try to bring this back to topic, the artist who made the Bush's recent play 'Hir' (about trans* issues) uses the personal pronoun judy, which is rather fabulous.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 29, 2017 13:42:08 GMT
There are an awful lot of dog whistling "how much can I rant about black people and PC police and post coded anti-black statements" comments around (in general, not specifically here) from people who believe anything short of explicitly stating "I hate black people" is not racist. Systemic and covert racism is real.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 29, 2017 0:08:19 GMT
Basil doesn't use the N word. The Major does in one scene and it's supposed to be an example of how backwards and out of touch he is (Basil seems fairly taken aback at this speech). It's worth pointing out that the Major is not using the word as a slur or term or abuse, but in a matter of fact way, like he genuinely believes that is the correct terminology for a person of African descent. Obviously attitudes have changed and you wouldn't get that now (the BBC decided to edit that line out of repeats a few years ago, to predictable Daily Mail outrage) but in the uncut episode it's not presented as a perfectly acceptable every day word to use.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2017 22:34:01 GMT
At the Majority this eve someone in the front row had their shoes off and their bare feet stretched out fully resting on the stage, and had to be told by an user to stop. Someone else in the front row tried to take a sneaky photo of them (before the show started, not during) but didn't realise flash was on.
Rob Drummond always stays to do an informal post-show, and two elderly Jewish ladies confronted him over certain elements of the show (the message of the show is basically it's fine to be a Nazi as long as you don't actively engage in violence or exhort others to violence, since everyone should be allowed any opinion free of censorship or abuse), he got very defensive, and it ended in a big fight.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2017 22:07:53 GMT
I really side eye actors who accept expensive presents from fans. It's on the person with the power to set appropriate boundaries.
Someone like John Barrowman has the right idea, he says if fans want to give gifts to only give sweets (which are very cheap and can't be messed with).
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2017 22:05:27 GMT
I live a couple of miles away and have not seen hide or hair of carnival. Granted I didn't go on any of the tube lines that go through the area, but surely that shows how contained and easy to avoid it is?
Funny how events where white people get blind drunk and violent are never subject to this kind of condemnation and debate.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Aug 28, 2017 22:02:06 GMT
As long as there is heteronormativity there will be a need for labels, sadly.
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