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Post by Mark on Apr 16, 2022 12:57:25 GMT
Too Early?
New Musicals
I'm sure there will be additions to this category before the cut-off (I hope so anyway). This is what I can come up with for now.
Confirmed: Bonnie & Clyde, 101 Dalmatians, The Band's Visit, Mandela, Jagged Little Pill, Newsies (will it be eligible?)
Potential: Tammy Faye musical (Almeida)??, Mrs Doubtfire (Shaftesbury)??, Beetlejuice (Dominion)??
Musical Revival
A crowded category already, mostly top quality imports.
South Pacific, Oklahoma, Legally Blonde, My Fair Lady, Beauty and the Beast, Grease
New Play
Mockingbird to dominate this one. I can't see anything beating it. The 47th and Dolls House Part 2 the likely others to get a look in from what I see so far. Possibly some love for Jodie Comer in Prima Facie.
Play Revival
Will Jerusalem be considered a revival (a la Constellations this year).
Cock, Jitney, The Seagull, The Glass Menagerie. Very early days.
My very early predictions: Band's Visit, Oklahoma and Mockingbird. Can't call Play revival.
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Post by teamyali on Apr 16, 2022 13:41:39 GMT
I wonder why Small Island never got the awards attention way back in 2019. This is one of the National’s most acclaimed productions in recent years, and the most topical. I don’t know if the recent February run is too early and too distant for voters. Maybe it may get a play revival nom?
I wouldn’t also count out any Dominic Cooke production - isn’t he like the king of revivals in recent years? From Clybourne, Ma Rainey’s, Follies, and recently The Normal Heart. If The Corn is Green turns out well, or if the David Tennant starrer Good, push through, then he’ll be back.
We’d probably have to see which ones from the subsidised will become hits - RC’s For Black Boys… seems to be fine. The NT’s The Father and the Assassin may turn out well. Is the Anne-Marie Duff show at the Almeida a new play or revival?
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Post by alece10 on Apr 16, 2022 15:05:44 GMT
Also isn't Hex rumoured to return to the NT for Christmas.
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Post by Mark on Apr 16, 2022 15:32:41 GMT
Also isn't Hex rumoured to return to the NT for Christmas. If Hex gets nominated for an Olivier, there is no hope. |
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 16, 2022 15:58:53 GMT
If there's a new category for 'Best use of a condiment in a play with music', then Standing at the Sky's Edge is a shoo-in. 🙂
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Apr 16, 2022 17:40:44 GMT
The Tammy Faye musical is opening at the Almeida this autumn, ahead of a West End run next spring.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 16, 2022 17:48:09 GMT
If there's a new category for 'Best use of a condiment in a play with music', then Standing at the Sky's Edge is a shoo-in. 🙂 Was “it” mentioned? |
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 16, 2022 17:59:11 GMT
If there's a new category for 'Best use of a condiment in a play with music', then Standing at the Sky's Edge is a shoo-in. 🙂 Was “it” mentioned? Only about half a dozen times. I've told this story before, but Chris Bush and Rob Hastie genuinely thought about making cuts, because they were worried "it" was getting too much attention. There was even a round of applause on the night I went. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 16, 2022 18:04:04 GMT
Only about half a dozen times. I've told this story before, but Chris Bush and Rob Hastie genuinely thought about making cuts, because they were worried "it" was getting too much attention. There was even a round of applause on the night I went.😆 It’s been a long time I must have forgotten. “It” will be lost on the audience at the NT. They should sell “it” in the shop, £5… make a packet. |
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Apr 16, 2022 18:29:42 GMT
Too Early? New MusicalsI'm sure there will be additions to this category before the cut-off (I hope so anyway). This is what I can come up with for now. Confirmed: Bonnie & Clyde, 101 Dalmatians, The Band's Visit, Mandela, Jagged Little Pill, Newsies (will it be eligible?) Potential: Tammy Faye musical (Almeida)??, Mrs Doubtfire (Shaftesbury)??, Beetlejuice (Dominion)?? Musical RevivalA crowded category already, mostly top quality imports. South Pacific, Oklahoma, Legally Blonde, My Fair Lady, Beauty and the Beast, Grease New Play
Mockingbird to dominate this one. I can't see anything beating it. The 47th and Dolls House Part 2 the likely others to get a look in from what I see so far. Possibly some love for Jodie Comer in Prima Facie. Play RevivalWill Jerusalem be considered a revival (a la Constellations this year). Cock, Jitney, The Seagull, The Glass Menagerie. Very early days. My very early predictions: Band's Visit, Oklahoma and Mockingbird. Can't call Play revival. familiar list www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/olivier-awards-predictions-2023_56318.html |
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Post by Mark on Apr 16, 2022 21:53:13 GMT
Amazingly, I hadn't read that article, but glad I didn't miss any of the obvious ones. |
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Apr 16, 2022 23:24:20 GMT
I wonder why Small Island never got the awards attention way back in 2019. This is one of the National’s most acclaimed productions in recent years, and the most topical. I don’t know if the recent February run is too early and too distant for voters. Maybe it may get a play revival nom? Small Island as a production isn't eligible for the 2023 awards, but I think some of the new actors can be considered for acting awards |
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Apr 16, 2022 23:26:05 GMT
Is the Anne-Marie Duff show at the Almeida a new play or revival? that's a world premiere i believe! |
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 17, 2022 9:15:31 GMT
As someone pointed out, WhatOnStage posted a 2023 prediction just the other day (link here)! It's early days, but it already seems like it'll be a great year for theatre. Looking back at last year's Oliviers thread, I remember people predicting that Frozen and Anything Goes would be the frontrunners in their respective categories; oh, how times have changed!  It's almost impossible to predict how well shows are going to perform this early on in the game, but it does seem To Kill a Mockingbird and Oklahoma are the very early frontrunners. Only time will tell whether that turns true! |
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Post by h86 on Aug 4, 2022 19:50:25 GMT
We’re a good few months in to the eligibility year now so what are peoples thoughts having seen some of the eligible shows and performances.
Legally Blonde can’t be considered for musical revival now surely?! 101 Dalmatian’s is also a no-go for new musical as well I’d say.
How about performances? Any standouts?
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Post by Mark on Aug 4, 2022 21:18:18 GMT
New Musicals - I think only 101 Dalmatians and Bonnie and Clyde eligible up to now that have opened!! Curious how Mandela will be, and still Band's Visit and some other potential transfers to come in (if Operation Mincemeat comes in they will have a great shot!)
Revival - I think this one will be between South Pacific and Oklahoma, and that these two will also dominate the acting noms.
Best Play - Still sticking with Mockingbird to win. Prima Facie, Patriots, Mad House, Dolls House P2 for nominees.
Revival - Cock, The Corn is Green
Best Actress - Jodie Comer to win (other potential nominees - Noma Dumezweni, Nicola Walker, Anne Marie Duff)
Best Actor - Hard one. David Harbour, Wil Johnson, Rafe Spall and Tom Hollander all potential nominees
Featured Actor - Bill Murray for a nomination (Mad House)
Featured Actress - Noms for Akiya Henry and June Watson (Mad House and Dolls House P2)
Edit to add: More to come in before the cut-off hopefully with new shows for Phoenix, Prince Edward, Lyric, Garrick, Ambassadors, and whatever plays @sohoplace
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 5, 2022 7:49:57 GMT
Bill Pullman, surely? Bill Murray was offered Mad House, but is waiting for the musical version of Lost in Translation. 🙂
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Post by Mark on Aug 5, 2022 11:34:17 GMT
Bill Pullman, surely? Bill Murray was offered Mad House, but is waiting for the musical version of Lost in Translation. 🙂 That’s the one 😂 |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 6, 2022 7:46:19 GMT
Anyway, joking aside, Standing at the Sky's Edge will clean up, obvs...but in which category? BurlyBeaR is adamant that it's a play; I'm insistent that it's a musical. 🤣 Bill Murray could play Poppy's dad. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 7, 2022 13:54:00 GMT
Anyway, joking aside, Standing at the Sky's Edge will clean up, obvs...but in which category? BurlyBeaR is adamant that it's a play; I'm insistent that it's a musical. 🤣 Bill Murray could play Poppy's dad. Turncoat! Finally conceding now hmmm? |
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 7, 2022 14:34:16 GMT
Concede what, BurlyBeaR? I've always been consistent...and correct. 😊 |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 7, 2022 14:37:37 GMT
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Post by teamyali on Aug 11, 2022 11:27:29 GMT
Is Bridge Theatre even planning to be a member of SOLT? They have wonderful productions in recent years, and there’s also the upcoming Guys & Dolls musical revival next year.
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Post by kyvai on Aug 23, 2022 8:51:49 GMT
David Tennant is in “Good” in the autumn. He has to be a contender one would assume.
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Post by Mark on Oct 8, 2022 17:06:30 GMT
Unless there are any more shows that will open prior to the end of February 2022, I believe this to be the list of eligible musicals in the main categories (oops if I've missed any). Definitely a less "commercial" bunch of shows to last year in the new musicals category.
New Musical:
101 Dalmatians
The Band's Visit
Bonnie & Clyde
Hex
Mandela
Newsies
Standing at the Sky's Edge
Sylvia
Tammy Faye
Revival
Beauty and the Beast
Elf
Grease
Legally Blonde
My Fair Lady
Oklahoma!
South Pacific
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Post by alece10 on Oct 8, 2022 19:03:25 GMT
Unless there are any more shows that will open prior to the end of February 2022, I believe this to be the list of eligible musicals in the main categories (oops if I've missed any). Definitely a less "commercial" bunch of shows to last year in the new musicals category. New Musical:101 Dalmatians The Band's Visit Bonnie & Clyde Hex Mandela Newsies Standing at the Sky's Edge Sylvia Tammy Faye Revival
Beauty and the Beast Elf Grease Legally Blonde My Fair Lady Oklahoma! South Pacific Is the Troubadour a SLOT member? |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Oct 8, 2022 19:18:15 GMT
Yes. I checked a while back
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Oct 9, 2022 19:16:25 GMT
Unless there are any more shows that will open prior to the end of February 2022, I believe this to be the list of eligible musicals in the main categories (oops if I've missed any). Definitely a less "commercial" bunch of shows to last year in the new musicals category. New Musical:101 Dalmatians The Band's Visit Bonnie & Clyde Hex Mandela Newsies Standing at the Sky's Edge Sylvia Tammy Faye Revival
Beauty and the Beast Elf Grease Legally Blonde My Fair Lady Oklahoma! South Pacific Who do we think are the early favourites? For new musical, I would imagine the current contenders would be The Band's Visit, Mandela, Newsies, Standing at the Sky's Edge and Tammy Faye. There's also the possibility that Doubtfire enters the scene, though it may be opening too late to be eligible. As for who might win, that's hard to say considering so many of them have yet to open. I have a hunch Tammy Faye might be a favourite due to the hype and creative team, but there's also a strong argument for The Band's Visit being a favourite. As for revival, the top two contenders seem to be Oklahoma and South Pacific, and I imagine the former is the favourite to win. As for who the other nominee could be, I would assume My Fair Lady, though it seems the reception to that production wasn't quite as positive here as in the States. |
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Post by sukhavati on Oct 9, 2022 20:24:09 GMT
Bill Pullman, surely? Bill Murray was offered Mad House, but is waiting for the musical version of Lost in Translation. 🙂 That’s the one 😂 Someone somewhere would pay a fortune to see the Murricane live. I don't think he's done any stage work since his Second City days. He's notorious for leaving directors hanging as to whether or not he'll commit to a film role until the first days cameras roll. Can you imagine the havoc he'd play in a theatre setting? |
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Oct 10, 2022 9:36:18 GMT
Revival
Beauty and the Beast Elf Grease Legally Blonde My Fair Lady Oklahoma! South Pacific I think Sister Act will be eligible for the revival category. |
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It's almost impossible to predict how well shows are going to perform this early on in the game, but it does seem To Kill a Mockingbird and Oklahoma are the very early frontrunners. Only time will tell whether that turns true! 
