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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2019 23:04:49 GMT
Missed opportunity to give recognition to the Pinter season! I completely agree. They really should have celebrated that incredible season of plays!
And although Monica Dolan gave a fine performance, I'm disappointed that Cecilia Noble didn't win Best Supporting Actress for Nine Night. That was one of the best comic performances I've ever seen.
I am glad for Company's wins though. That was the show of the year.
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Post by Jon on Apr 7, 2019 23:07:29 GMT
Despite the late showing, it’s been great to see this on ITV. The lack of adverts in some ad breaks demonstrates ITV is basically making no money showing this but I stand my earlier comments that the BBC should be showing this in full. Is it niche? Sure, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important - we’re talking world class entertainment awards here. I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One.
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Post by musicalmarge on Apr 7, 2019 23:07:36 GMT
Just watched the Come From Away performance and it hasn't changed my mind about not wanting to see it. Looks very cheesy and hokey. YOU ARE SOOOOO MISTAKEN
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Post by sparky5000 on Apr 7, 2019 23:09:28 GMT
Six clearly is a show that doesn't come across that well on TV. Because that performance really didn't show the show off well at all, especially following Rosalie's incredible performance. Oh really? Coz that made me want to see it, thought the girls were all amazing. Yeah I actually thought it was a really strong performance!
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 7, 2019 23:11:29 GMT
Utterly, utterly shockingly terrible TV directing on the In Memoriam. Wide shots pulling away from the stage so we can't read the names and focusing on the singer.
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Post by musicalmarge on Apr 7, 2019 23:16:42 GMT
Lion King was awful but brilliant compared to Janie, Ruthie and the tuneless Jason Manford. The guy is abysmal. I agree..... every creative in that hall tonight was cringing during that opening trio.
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Post by learfan on Apr 7, 2019 23:17:37 GMT
Utterly, utterly shockingly terrible TV directing on the In Memoriam. Wide shots pulling away from the stage so we can't read the names and focusing on the singer. Same, amateurish and disrespectful.
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Post by Jon on Apr 7, 2019 23:18:13 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if McKellen gets an honorary Olivier for his one man show next year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 23:19:02 GMT
Wonder if a bill poster person is running around the West End and tube stations putting Olivier winner posters onto the adverts for the winning shows.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 23:19:29 GMT
Despite the late showing, it’s been great to see this on ITV. The lack of adverts in some ad breaks demonstrates ITV is basically making no money showing this but I stand my earlier comments that the BBC should be showing this in full. Is it niche? Sure, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important - we’re talking world class entertainment awards here. I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One. The difference is the BBC is non-commercial and doesn’t actually need to monitor ratings. We’re talking about an awards show that makes headlines and mean something in the world of entertainment - with a-lister stars in attendance... and now with Royalty handing out awards no less. A licence fee needs to be justified by the BBC at all times, but I’d argue that surely this meets the same criteria as award shows such as the BAFTAs? You might not know or have even seen every film nominated, but it doesn’t detract from audiences watching. Anyway, maybe it will get there. SOLT have really done great things over the last few years to push and promote the Oliviers and their coverage today was very well done - if you wanted to, you could watch the red carpet, listen to the awards live then watch most of it later in the evening. It’d be interesting to see if this got more viewers than the much repeated Gone Girl that BBC2 has on at the same time anyway.
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Post by anthem on Apr 7, 2019 23:33:54 GMT
Just watched the Come From Away performance and it hasn't changed my mind about not wanting to see it. Looks very cheesy and hokey. YOU ARE SOOOOO MISTAKEN It is a bit cheesy and hokey but isn’t that part of the charm? I do think that someone watching the Olivier performance will have a fair idea if they’ll enjoy the show or not based on what they saw. The style of music is not going to be everyone’s cup of tea.
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Post by anthem on Apr 7, 2019 23:40:50 GMT
Wow that’s a shocker. I saw Tina on Tuesday and thought he was truly dreadful. Couldn’t understand a word he said or sang. Glad to see Kobna win. He was excellent both times I saw ‘Tina’ and made a really menacing Ike. He did have a strong accent (as Ike did) so I guess that’s why you couldn’t understand him. I find it amusing how wildly opinions differ on this board. One person’s Olivier winner is another person’s ‘truly dreadful’. Never a dull moment!
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Post by sf on Apr 7, 2019 23:43:00 GMT
Despite the late showing, it’s been great to see this on ITV. The lack of adverts in some ad breaks demonstrates ITV is basically making no money showing this but I stand my earlier comments that the BBC should be showing this in full. Is it niche? Sure, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important - we’re talking world class entertainment awards here. I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One.
The BBC moved it from BBC1 to BBC2 in the early 90s and then dropped it completely about ten years later. It's a safe bet they don't want it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 23:51:04 GMT
It would be a natural fit on BBC4 but fair play for ITV putting it on the main channel.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 7, 2019 23:51:18 GMT
Despite the late showing, it’s been great to see this on ITV. The lack of adverts in some ad breaks demonstrates ITV is basically making no money showing this but I stand my earlier comments that the BBC should be showing this in full. Is it niche? Sure, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t important - we’re talking world class entertainment awards here. I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One. Theatre will always be a niche pastime and will never attract a big audience and surprised ITV even do this, as live filming or quickly edited is very expensive. I have never been to any awards ceremony, or watch anything on television, internet or radio, don’t want to come across as snooty as I am certainly not, but the theatre I want to remember is just that in a theatre, not on some arena stage not designed for the production and a sound rig designed for multiple shows. Yes I check who won what out of curiosity and it might nudge me to see something again.
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Post by Jon on Apr 7, 2019 23:55:02 GMT
I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One. Theatre will always be a niche pastime and will never attract a big audience and surprised ITV even do this, as live filming or quickly edited is very expensive. I wouldn't be surprised if ITV are paying very little if anything for the highlights.
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Post by ncbears on Apr 8, 2019 0:41:05 GMT
After last year's tumult about the in memoriam segment, you'd think they would do a better job. But, the camera is on Ms. Knight (who is wondrous) but you can't see the faces and names of the people being remembered. Sigh. (Maybe they will fix it for the ITV broadcast?) I guess they did not fix it based on Twitter complaints
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 1:10:17 GMT
I am more referring to the writing than the direction or acting. I am actually just cringing myself re-playing "Welcome To the Rock" in my head. It's as if SNL is doing a parody of musicals. Uuuuuuhhhhhhgh. You are so bang on here I just went and read your comment to my husband. I love the show, but yes. This.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 1:18:02 GMT
Is Patsy the youngest ever winner of Best Actress? I’d missed how young she is. What a career she has ahead of her.
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Post by nash16 on Apr 8, 2019 1:32:30 GMT
Wonder if a bill poster person is running around the West End and tube stations putting Olivier winner posters onto the adverts for the winning shows. Well, that is what this whole thing is for. £££££££££!
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Post by nash16 on Apr 8, 2019 1:35:02 GMT
Sonia Friedman had a good night then. Well, behind the scenes she does have a big hand in choosing the winners.
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Post by Polly1 on Apr 8, 2019 3:47:29 GMT
Wonder if a bill poster person is running around the West End and tube stations putting Olivier winner posters onto the adverts for the winning shows. Most of them have closed!
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Post by madsonmelo on Apr 8, 2019 5:06:51 GMT
Sharon is a legend in her fourth nom, AMAZED by her win, so deserved!
Company winning two predictable but very well deserved acting awards were everything!
Sad that Adrienne had to see her male co-star winning even though she is the real star of the show.
Come From Away winning is a good thing, especially when they basically lost everything to DEH at the Tony's. SIX should've won Music tho.
The performances from Rosalie, Sharon, Adrienne and SIX were amazing, those women rocked!
The play awards went also predictable, but clearly the right choice.
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Post by madsonmelo on Apr 8, 2019 5:07:56 GMT
Also, funny that I friend of mine went to London for 6 days and asked me ''what should I see?'' and I said Company, Caroline or Change and Book of Mormon and now he has seen 3/4 of the winners tonight LOL
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Post by cmj on Apr 8, 2019 7:06:45 GMT
Wow that’s a shocker. I saw Tina on Tuesday and thought he was truly dreadful. Couldn’t understand a word he said or sang. Glad to see Kobna win. He was excellent both times I saw ‘Tina’ and made a really menacing Ike. He did have a strong accent (as Ike did) so I guess that’s why you couldn’t understand him. Didn't get menacing or charismatic when I went so couldn't understand why Tina would stay with him let alone marry him. Even if Ike did have a strong accent it's a show so the audience needs to be able to hear what a character is saying/singing. Enunciation problems rather than understanding an accent.
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Post by learfan on Apr 8, 2019 7:13:26 GMT
I think if the BBC wanted it, it'd be on BBC Four, I doubt BBC Two would want it either given how atrocious the ratings were for the ITV highlights in primetime, same with BBC One. Theatre will always be a niche pastime and will never attract a big audience and surprised ITV even do this, as live filming or quickly edited is very expensive. I have never been to any awards ceremony, or watch anything on television, internet or radio, don’t want to come across as snooty as I am certainly not, but the theatre I want to remember is just that in a theatre, not on some arena stage not designed for the production and a sound rig designed for multiple shows. Yes I check who won what out of curiosity and it might nudge me to see something again. Why do you think that? I doubt they incurred much. Its a SOLT production.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 7:26:22 GMT
I haven't watched it yet, but I kept up on twitter. The only one I'm slightly disappointed for is Marianne Elliott not getting a directing one, but I also can't argue with Daldry winning so...
I know lots of people thought Rosalie was a sure thing, but that best actress category was TOUGH and honestly, I wouldn't have been sad about any of them winning. Sharon however gave an incredible performance in a difficult piece of work and sang the roof off, so fair play to her she deserved it (are we going to see her back again next year for Death of a Salesman? probably).
Johnny Bailey of course deserved it, Miss Patti was a sure thing but also a deserved win.
Really thrilled for the Home I'm Darling team, that play was a labour of love (pun intended #workingmum Tamara) and clearly meant a lot to the two of them. Yes I'm a bit salty that my girl Sue Brown didn't win, but we can all bow down to the brilliance that is Monica Dolan so it's ok.
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 8, 2019 7:51:30 GMT
Just watched the Come From Away performance and it hasn't changed my mind about not wanting to see it. Looks very cheesy and hokey. YOU ARE SOOOOO MISTAKEN I'll take your word for it.
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 8, 2019 7:52:43 GMT
Wasn't it only 2 years ago ITV was showing the awards at prime time, not tucked away in this graveyard slot?... It did very badly in primetime so no surprise it got moved. It's lucky it's still on ITV at all!
Just shows that most of the TV viewing public are ingrates!
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Post by Rory on Apr 8, 2019 7:57:09 GMT
Thought Manford wasn't a bad host. Apart from the woeful misjudgment of the In Memoriam section (admittedly a big one), the televised production was fine. Would have liked less of the intro and more of the categories (supporting actors etc). Awards wise it was a good spread and all were deserving.
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