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Post by mrbarnaby on Aug 13, 2018 18:59:32 GMT
This sounds tragic ! Can’t imagine who would go to this- apart from the strange Carrie Hope Fletcher stalkers.
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Post by 49thand8th on Aug 13, 2018 19:00:35 GMT
This sounds tragic ! Can’t imagine who would go to this- apart from the strange Carrie Hope Fletcher stalkers. See?
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Post by martello736 on Aug 13, 2018 20:09:48 GMT
How big is Shoreditch Town Hall? In my mind a town hall is one room the size of a high school drama studio with a tiny little kitchen attached. Maybe I’m thinking of a village hall. Not really sure if this is good value or not as they’ve been very vague about what will actually be happening. Think I’ll hold off until I know for sure if I’ll be able to get a long overdue photo with Elphaba and Glinda in costume
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Post by alece10 on Aug 13, 2018 20:16:31 GMT
How big is Shoreditch Town Hall? In my mind a town hall is one room the size of a high school drama studio with a tiny little kitchen attached. Maybe I’m thinking of a village hall. Not really sure if this is good value or not as they’ve been very vague about what will actually be happening. Think I’ll hold off until I know for sure if I’ll be able to get a long overdue photo with Elphaba and Glinda in costume It's big. 2 level theatre with large foyer and lots of side rooms. Not Excel size but plenty big enough for that kind of event.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 13, 2018 20:34:26 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 13, 2018 21:34:12 GMT
I don’t want to meet performers. Why would I? Let’s keep that fourth wall firmly in place. You do your thing up on your stage, I’ll do mine in my rather expensive seat. I pay, you perform. It’s a business relationship not a friendship.
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Post by learfan on Aug 13, 2018 22:06:12 GMT
I've now given this some thought. Shoreditch Town Hall seems somewhat lacking in confidence as a venue, but I assume - in fact know - that Excel is booked. Personally, I've never paid for an autograph except as part of a charity auction, and there's no way I'm starting now. Worse, at least some of those appearing you can get their autograph free at the stage door any time. The price is just ridiculous to me, if you add on that you have to buy autographs after that. I'd see some justification if it included actual time with people, but it doesn't. I've a suspicion this will be reasonably well organised, in that artists will show up and there will be stalls, but that tickets may be available on a Time Out deal nearer the time. I do wonder if there will be enough to do even to justify the cost of the ticket, though, for those attending. Venue choice seemed v odd to me too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 23:26:14 GMT
I'd like to see what guest prices are for signatures and photos are as with these events entry costs are usually lower and then the money is made on the signings and talks. I'd certainly want to know what £80 got you before stumping up if I was likely to attend.
Surely this sort of event should look to get veteran performers who may not appear on stage much now to do talks and signings, the older fans would like this.
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Post by CG on the loose on Aug 14, 2018 0:48:49 GMT
I'd like to see what guest prices are for signatures and photos are as with these events entry costs are usually lower and then the money is made on the signings and talks. I'd certainly want to know what £80 got you before stumping up if I was likely to attend. Surely this sort of event should look to get veteran performers who may not appear on stage much now to do talks and signings, the older fans would like this. Their website gives more info on what's included, although as has been pointed out above, you can't book individual sessions until 4 weeks prior to the event, so you could shell out the entry fee and not get into the sessions you want to attend. stagecon.co.uk/index.html
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Post by mistressjojo on Aug 14, 2018 0:49:40 GMT
I'd like to see what guest prices are for signatures and photos are as with these events entry costs are usually lower and then the money is made on the signings and talks. I'd certainly want to know what £80 got you before stumping up if I was likely to attend. Surely this sort of event should look to get veteran performers who may not appear on stage much now to do talks and signings, the older fans would like this. Looking at the web page it says autographs & photos are included in the price, you just have to book a slot. *If* you wanted this from all the performers attending then the ticket price is quite reasonable (not withstanding the fact that you could get them for free at stage doors if you put in the effort). Otherwise it's a lot for a few Q&A panels and merchandise stalls. And shouldn't it be called 'Musical-Con' ? Where's all the 'straight' actors?
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Post by alece10 on Aug 14, 2018 5:59:24 GMT
Although I like the idea in principle I don't think I would stump up £86 for the list of actors showing so far. Not exactly "A" list is it. Seems to be aimed at they younger female audience so far.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 14, 2018 6:15:40 GMT
I wonder how long before theatre tickets start coming with a meet and greet for an extra thirty quid. I’m surprised ATG aren’t on it already.
“Band V: VIP Package. Treat yourself to the full experience. Includes a nibble box (may contain nuts), a teeny bottle of warm Chardonnay, programme, thimble sized ice cream at half time and exclusive meet and greet with Elphaba in the Ambassador Lounge pre-show”.
*terms and conditions apply. Price does not include photo Specific artists cannot be guaranteed. Artist will have played Elphaba at some point in career Do not touch artist.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 14, 2018 7:51:34 GMT
Okay, so first off it costs A LOT to put on an event like this in terms of just the basics. It's the first time out, they haven't got a million sponsors because everyone knows about it and wants to jump on the bandwagon like other big conventions. They have no idea the level of interest. They need to cover their costs and give themselves a safety net. I understand that not everyone can afford the prices like this and that's hugely disappointing, but i think that it's worth backing it and hopefully we can see the price drop a bit in future years as it becomes financially more secure for them.
This also goes hand in hand with the other complaints so far about the venue and guests so far. It's their first time doing this. No convention started as big as they are now.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 14, 2018 8:32:16 GMT
If it’s a success the price won’t drop, it will go up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 8:39:15 GMT
I don't think anyone here is having a go at the attendees? from what I've read (and posted) we're all veering towards either 'Interesting but not really my bag' to a terribly British 'OH IT'LL BE A DISASTER' (but not really wishing them ill)
I rather see it as Monkey's Donkey analogy, but I hope I'm proven wrong!
(and yes, if I was 15 years younger I'd probably have begged for tickets for my Birthday or something. Now I'm 15 years older, grumpy and poor so I don't want to be in that particular 'room where it happens')
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 14, 2018 8:41:45 GMT
If it’s a success the price won’t drop, it will go up. Not necessarily.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 14, 2018 8:47:41 GMT
But most likely. Why would whoever organises this want to drop the price as something gets more successful? It flies in the face of the entertainment industry. And given that what they are essentially doing here is selling performers, I’m not getting warm feelings about altruism.
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Post by poster J on Aug 14, 2018 9:23:04 GMT
If it’s a success the price won’t drop, it will go up. Not necessarily. But almost certainly - basic economics, supply and demand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 9:28:14 GMT
Ooh spotted a bit of snarky shade being thrown by a theatre critic who probably wishes they'd thought of it to be 'down with the kids' as they so desperately seem to want to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 11:21:02 GMT
I just had a proper look at the website. Looking at that, there are some big companies with reputations on the line. That has to count for something. Reading how they plan to do things, the location now seems more appropriate too. I think the key sticking points now are first, what we said on here about people being able to get into the activities they actually want to do. Second, it's going to be managing expectations at £85 per ticket. That's a huge chunk and it'll take more than two or three chats with actors to satisfy most lashing out that. If the organisers can really demonstrate that they can actually deliver the stars advertised and quality features - really good NYC style collectors stalls, top-quality stage presentations and discussions, they may yet have a real hit. I think my own position is now shifting from cynical to curious... ... now, does anyone know where I can get a field, a donkey corpse and a convicted Father Christmas, please? You know how we were the rebel group who broke away from WOS....well.... I think I'm with the Monkey, curious (like George the Monkey) but not enough to shell out £85 even if I had it spare (plus travel, accommodation etc). I'd love an event with decent talks, mini performances etc and a chance to buy the kind of quality theatre tat that the American events like BCEFA events do so well. Who knows maybe if it takes off in years to come I will part with some cash to go...but likely not this time around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:21:07 GMT
If the price is all inclusive then it is reasonable value.
I could see meet and greets coming into some shows in due course especially with a big name. David Suchet during his last couple of West End runs would have people go in two at a time to meet him inside the stage door. I think this was just so it was more controlled and to save blocking the pavement.
The Old Vic signing window was also perfect as it seperated performers from fans and could be marshalled easily and everyone could be met and the artist could work their way through the line quickly.
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Post by 49thand8th on Aug 14, 2018 14:22:45 GMT
But most likely. Why would whoever organises this want to drop the price as something gets more successful? It flies in the face of the entertainment industry. And given that what they are essentially doing here is selling performers, I’m not getting warm feelings about altruism. BroadwayCon did this. The second and third year, it was on GoldStar closer to the event. (I forget if there was anything beyond an "early bird" pricing the first year.) The first one of these is always going to be a little bit rocky. If you can afford it, I'd say at least go for a day, and then you can give them honest feedback on the experience. I truly think BroadwayCon took a lot of their post-con feedback seriously and it was much better after the first one. But it needed those with more disposable incomes to try it out first.
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Post by Xanderl on Aug 14, 2018 14:38:30 GMT
Comparing this to recent UK events like the London Comic Con where people were paying around £100 per autograph in some cases, £85 per day is not too bad. And it's a similar price to (for instance) the Twin Peaks UK Festival which looks a similar scale and is also £85 per day.
Just hope the organisers know what they're doing as I've heard so many horror stories of badly organised conventions for various fandoms.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 14, 2018 14:41:18 GMT
Can't believe none of us spotted a chasm in the list until now... NO STRALLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not one!!!!!!!!!!!!! But you've got to have a Strallen! How can they possibly have a musical-themed...well...anything!....without a Strallen?!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 14, 2018 14:45:24 GMT
What would be an acceptable price then? Because i have a feeling that anything above about £30 would still have had some people up in arms claiming it's elitist and so on. But the reality of the situation that an event like this was never going to be as cheap as that and if it was then a) it wouldn't have gone ahead in the end b) it would be completely crap if it did or c)it would make the organisers bankrupt and there would never be another one.
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Post by 49thand8th on Aug 14, 2018 14:58:51 GMT
Can't believe none of us spotted a chasm in the list until now... NO STRALLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not one!!!!!!!!!!!!! But you've got to have a Strallen! How can they possibly have a musical-themed...well...anything!....without a Strallen?! Give it a month!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 15:07:15 GMT
It's a hard one tbh. The reason I used to go to fan conventions was because it was the only practical way to get a bunch of fans with a major shared interest together under one roof, and I've never felt that difficulty with fellow theatre fans, so I'm already significantly less interested. You want to indulge your passion for theatre in a special building full of theatre fans? Boy, does London have some GREAT venues for you! Also, it's hard to overlook that £160 would get you between one ticket to Hamilton and 32 tickets to the Globe. And has this only just been announced? What kind of keen-bean theatre fan doesn't already have something booked for Saturday 3rd November? I love Shoreditch Town Hall and think it sounds like a great venue, but it's not *super* big so I wonder if it's conversely costing more than it would've cost to go the more traditional route of hiring out some hotel conference rooms or part of a university campus. I don't know. Just rambling really. I would have loved this back when I was a student and didn't mind carving chunks out of my student loan for extravagant weekends of nerdery. Mind you, I am a little sad that this would be a respectable venue to cosplay as a theatre character - and probably be recognised! - and I'm going to be missing out on that...
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Post by alece10 on Aug 14, 2018 15:38:30 GMT
Can't believe none of us spotted a chasm in the list until now... NO STRALLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not one!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's cos the Strallens are ALWAYS working. They are never allowed a day off from keeping us entertained.
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Post by indis on Aug 14, 2018 15:39:13 GMT
It is too expensive to book without knowing whats really happening or if someone price-worthy is joining the date for the first con they should make it cheaper, so that more people can come and if it is a success they can invite more famous people next year and raise the price
the european (more like german) con was not taking place because no one wanted to buy expensive tickets without knowing whats going to happen
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Post by Phantom of London on Aug 14, 2018 16:49:04 GMT
How big is Shoreditch Town Hall? In my mind a town hall is one room the size of a high school drama studio with a tiny little kitchen attached. Maybe I’m thinking of a village hall. Not really sure if this is good value or not as they’ve been very vague about what will actually be happening. Think I’ll hold off until I know for sure if I’ll be able to get a long overdue photo with Elphaba and Glinda in costume Does Shoreditch Town Hall have a stage door?
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