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Post by poster J on Jun 8, 2018 21:55:08 GMT
Quite a bit of recognition for the world of theatre and acting more generally:
Dame Emma Thompson (well deserved!) CBE for Tom Hardy OBE for Keira Knightley, Marianne Elliott and Fenella Fielding MBE for Gary Wilmot and Timothy Bentinck
More broadly in the arts and broadcasting: knighthoods for Kazuo Ishiguro, Simon Scharma and the Royal Academy of Arts Chief Exec Charles Saumarez Smith, damehood for Mary Beard, CBEs for Ken Follett, Bamber Gascoigne, Kate Adie and Jeanette Winterson, OBEs for Abi Morgan and Monty Don
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Post by lynette on Jun 8, 2018 22:30:11 GMT
Good list. No idea how they decide on these honours but I’m pleased about this batch.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 8, 2018 23:07:05 GMT
More prizes for privileged people doing “jobs” that most people would kill for. It should be scrapped for celebrities and politicians and just used to recognise people doing good work for their community.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 9, 2018 0:27:47 GMT
Thanks Burly
Great you give me recognition I richly undeserve.
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Post by learfan on Jun 9, 2018 7:35:38 GMT
I know we shouldn't take this too seriously but I'm baffled at how Tom Hardy, a second tier actor is now a CBE, one away from a knighthood!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 7:41:52 GMT
And yet still no damehood for Julia McKenzie or Delia Smith. It's a world gone mad.
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Post by theatreian on Jun 9, 2018 8:04:55 GMT
And what about Petula Clark. No damehood for her either. At 85 she is still touring after countless films, theatre and millions of records sold in multiple languages. Another French album just released and French Canadian tour completed.I really cannot understand how some of the names can appear on the list.
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Post by Mr Snow on Jun 9, 2018 8:11:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 9:37:52 GMT
And what about Petula Clark. No damehood for her either. At 85 she is still touring after countless films, theatre and millions of records sold in multiple languages. Another French album just released and French Canadian tour completed.I really cannot understand how some of the names can appear on the list. Agree. That's a shocking one. And yet they give a knighthood to Dingo Starr!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 9:44:39 GMT
At least they gave an honour to that lovely lady who has been selling poppies for 97 years!!! That's 97. And she only plans to retire next year. The woman is 103! I have to stop for breath half way up the escalator in John Lewis and I'm nowhere near 103!! That's the Blitz spirit for you.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jun 9, 2018 10:41:28 GMT
I think Mr Dorfman is now Sir Dorfman too. Personally, I'd settle for a BEM - "Best Ever Monkey." So feel free to write to Downing Street Oh dear, I seem to have mislaid my pen 😏
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 10:51:33 GMT
I never know quite what I think of such awards- I take the point people doing their dream jobs getting rewarded can feel a bit vacuous. But similarly I'm also a fan of 'hey some nice news and something to celebrate in a grey world' and many celebrities do get it for their charity work etc as much as their 'proper' jobs.
But I am thrilled for Marianne Elliott. And that her statements about it are about building up other women in the industry. And from personal experience I can say hand on heart that she practices what she preaches. And an OBE and a Tony or two (please?) in a weekend is a pretty good week too...
Also come on. I can't wait to see Emma Thompson meet a Royal and wear a batty but fabulous Thompson outfit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 16:52:38 GMT
Wait, I missed Bamber Gascoigne! BAMBER! I love him, and I'm so delighted he's still alive. Only Sir Henry Kelly would make me happier.
I bloody love Emma Thompson though, she's just perfect in every way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 17:12:23 GMT
Well it turns out I know two people in this years list....I went to school with Jess Fishlock (footballer) who is getting an MBE.
Clearly Queenie is slowly getting around to me then.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 9, 2018 21:47:21 GMT
I know we shouldn't take this too seriously but I'm baffled at how Tom Hardy, a second tier actor is now a CBE, one away from a knighthood!! I would quibble a bit about second-tier - he has done some good stuff! - but it does seem a bit early for him. Unless he has been involved in some charity work I am unaware of - sometimes even ‘slebs turn out to have been quietly working with charities without making a fuss about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 0:34:05 GMT
And yet still no damehood for Julia McKenzie or Delia Smith. It's a world gone mad. Delia is already a CBE and was made an Companion of Honour last year which is higher than a knight/damehood so I'd guess she has declined a Damehood or said she doesn't want a title before her name. Julia got a long overdue CBE earlier this year too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 7:15:46 GMT
And yet still no damehood for Julia McKenzie or Delia Smith. It's a world gone mad. Delia is already a CBE and was made an Companion of Honour last year which is higher than a knight/damehood so I'd guess she has declined a Damehood or said she doesn't want a title before her name. Julia got a long overdue CBE earlier this year too. Fairy nuff. She'll always be Dame Delia to me though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 7:18:28 GMT
I know we shouldn't take this too seriously but I'm baffled at how Tom Hardy, a second tier actor is now a CBE, one away from a knighthood!! I would quibble a bit about second-tier - he has done some good stuff! - but it does seem a bit early for him. Unless he has been involved in some charity work I am unaware of - sometimes even ‘slebs turn out to have been quietly working with charities without making a fuss about it. He's been awarded it for services to drama so he's got it for his acting. He does however do a lot for the Princes Trust so that may have had an influence.
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Post by learfan on Jun 10, 2018 7:40:53 GMT
I would quibble a bit about second-tier - he has done some good stuff! - but it does seem a bit early for him. Unless he has been involved in some charity work I am unaware of - sometimes even ‘slebs turn out to have been quietly working with charities without making a fuss about it. He's been awarded it for services to drama so he's got it for his acting. He does however do a lot for the Princes Trust so that may have had an influence. The citation mentions acting only, which makes it strange. However he did get an invite to the wedding so he clearly has contacts. I just thought a CBE a bit swift.
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Post by ctas on Jun 10, 2018 9:27:55 GMT
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Post by jaqs on Jun 11, 2018 13:20:37 GMT
Kate Adie ought to be a dame rather than CBE surely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 13:37:51 GMT
I'm surprised one of the UK biggest actors is being classed as second tier. His career has been going 18 years (big break I guess was black hawk down) and has done theatre (he was great in Man of Mode at the national in 2007 and where I first really discovered him), TV and film.
As mentioned he works with the prince's trust and also is involved a lot with veterans charities and the marines/military including visits out to them.
It's the first honours list in a while where they all seem pretty deserved.
Also if people think it's time certain people were nominated then you can nominate anyone yourself. If bigger names haven't been rewarded it could be due to lack of nomination or they refused it
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Post by alece10 on Jun 11, 2018 13:58:52 GMT
I'm surprised one of the UK biggest actors is being classed as second tier. His career has been going 18 years (big break I guess was black hawk down) and has done theatre (he was great in Man of Mode at the national in 2007 and where I first really discovered him), TV and film. As mentioned he works with the prince's trust and also is involved a lot with veterans charities and the marines/military including visits out to them. It's the first honours list in a while where they all seem pretty deserved. Also if people think it's time certain people were nominated then you can nominate anyone yourself. If bigger names haven't been rewarded it could be due to lack of nomination or they refused it Plus he loves dogs
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 14:05:13 GMT
I'm surprised one of the UK biggest actors is being classed as second tier. His career has been going 18 years (big break I guess was black hawk down) and has done theatre (he was great in Man of Mode at the national in 2007 and where I first really discovered him), TV and film. As mentioned he works with the prince's trust and also is involved a lot with veterans charities and the marines/military including visits out to them. It's the first honours list in a while where they all seem pretty deserved. Also if people think it's time certain people were nominated then you can nominate anyone yourself. If bigger names haven't been rewarded it could be due to lack of nomination or they refused it And of course . . .
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Post by lynette on Jun 11, 2018 14:13:46 GMT
Adorable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 19:50:43 GMT
Tom getting an honour isn't an issue but a CBE seems quite weighty, he hasn't won an Oscar or anything yet. I'd have said an OBE would have been more suitable at this stage of his career.
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Post by Tibidabo on Jun 12, 2018 16:24:09 GMT
Surely it's long past time for Sir Michael Crawford?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 21:42:29 GMT
Is it? has he really done all that much since the 80s aside the occasional role here and there. he has had a few high profile roles in his career but he never seems to be consistently working.
If he gets one then it should definitely be time for Sir Michael Ball and Dame Elaine Paige. Love or hate them they have had stronger careers and been champions for theatre
Imelda Staunton must be approaching Dame status within the next decade
And a bit away from theatre I think in next 5 to 10 years Kylie Minogue should get an honorary Damehood. She's lived here for decades, higb profile career, from a commonwealth country and I think has been involved in charity work (Princes Trust?). If Julie Andrews and Angela Lansbury can have one who, great as they are, haven't exactly embraced their British routes during their career. then Kylie should get something
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Post by david on Jun 12, 2018 21:50:12 GMT
Kylie M for an honour? She should be so lucky. Though I suppose it’s better the devil you know on a night like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2018 0:54:49 GMT
Surely it's long past time for Sir Michael Crawford? Apart from a very distinguished stage and screen career, Michael has also done a lot of charity work for well over 30 years. This was mentioned in his CBE citation in 2014. Surely his knighthood cannot be far away, he is 76 years old now so has had a career stretching well over 50 years and 30 years plus charity work to his credit.
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