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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 20, 2023 11:31:44 GMT
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Post by vickyg on Nov 20, 2023 12:02:18 GMT
This might be a stupid question, but are there set dates for what constitutes the 2024/25 season?
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 20, 2023 12:24:36 GMT
It's to do with Tony eligibility I think - nominations usually come out end of April/early May, so I'd guess it's May 24-April 25?
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Post by shownut on Nov 20, 2023 12:39:53 GMT
This might be a stupid question, but are there set dates for what constitutes the 2024/25 season? In terms of exact calendar dates, not sure, but would imagine the beginning of the season begins when eligibility for the current awards season ends (generally first week of May with noms announced the following week). Would imagine they are looking at an autumn 2024 opening as Nov/Dec are generally good box office with the tourist numbers but will depend which Nederlander theatre they choose. |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 20, 2023 13:23:59 GMT
That is insane. That theatre is huge. That would be a huuuuge mistake. Even if they expanded the design- it still isn’t a ‘big’ show. At the Almeida, nothing is a big show, but it did allow them to test the material. The Palace may or may not be the theatre of choice but I have a feeling that given the recent revamp/workshop and move to Broadway, it will bear minor comparison to the previous production and for good reason if they are heading to a bigger house. EVERY Broadway house is bigger than the Almeida. |
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Post by shownut on Nov 20, 2023 14:19:07 GMT
At the Almeida, nothing is a big show, but it did allow them to test the material. The Palace may or may not be the theatre of choice but I have a feeling that given the recent revamp/workshop and move to Broadway, it will bear minor comparison to the previous production and for good reason if they are heading to a bigger house. EVERY Broadway house is bigger than the Almeida. True - even the Helen Hayes which is the size of a closet. :-) |
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Post by shownut on Nov 20, 2023 14:21:11 GMT
Possibly at the yet-to-reopen Palace theatre. That's the name I've heard floating around. If that is the case, then we will be looking at a much bigger show than we might have initially expected.....and I am fine with that. |
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Nov 22, 2023 8:55:01 GMT
I’ll be gutted if this doesn’t come back, why not perfect it here then chuck it over the pond?? Even for a short run. I really enjoyed this. And Andrew is hawt. And talented too haha It is very funny that Elton John wrote it. He must hate them |
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Nov 22, 2023 8:59:12 GMT
I am Australian , and would think it very funny. I am not a big fan of religion and scamming though
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 22, 2023 9:16:24 GMT
I am Australian , and would think it very funny. I am not a big fan of religion and scamming though Ah, another Australian. That's at least three of us on the board that I'm, aware of. |
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Post by max on Nov 22, 2023 9:25:38 GMT
I think this could fall victim to factors outside of the show itself. Whether they've arrived yet or are coming soon, 'Cabaret', 'Sunset Boulevard' and 'Guys and Dolls' may be enough of 'Brits owning American material' for US critics and Broadway zealotes to take. Culturally critiquing aspects of American culture in 'Tammy Faye' (even if it's done more excellently than the already v good Almeida production) may be a step too far.
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Nov 22, 2023 10:11:17 GMT
Hopefully Katie will transfer and get that Tony. Heard a clip she sounds amazing. Her accent is really perfect. I really think it could be at circle in the square. I am not familiar with the Almeida Theatre how small is it? Is it like Fringe that just Almeida Theatre happens to be eligible for Oliviers
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Post by shownut on Nov 22, 2023 10:38:56 GMT
I think this could fall victim to factors outside of the show itself. Whether they've arrived yet or are coming soon, 'Cabaret', 'Sunset Boulevard' and 'Guys and Dolls' may be enough of 'Brits owning American material' for US critics and Broadway zealotes to take. Culturally critiquing aspects of American culture in 'Tammy Faye' (even if it's done more excellently than the already v good Almeida production) may be a step too far. As an American, I would disagree. I would think Broadway audiences will find it refreshing that pointed views on evangelicals and their gradual overtaking of the Republican Party/American politics can come from elsewhere, rather than from inside the echo chamber. TAMMY FAYE has a likely chance of opening during the period of the 2024 Presidential election so sensitivities to this issue will be at all time high. And lets face it, and yes, I know I am stereotyping, but the sort of folks that would be offended by James Graham's takedown of Jerry Falwell and the like, are not generally the ones buying up tickets to Broadway musicals. In terms of the send-ups of American culture, (hilariously rendered in the show's excellent "Heritage USA") people have more of a sense of humour than they are often given credit for and as mentioned above, those who would be offended by that are likely not the target audience for this show anyhow. BOOK OF MORMON treads a bit in that territory and it certainly hasn't had a negative effect. |
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Post by shownut on Nov 22, 2023 10:43:42 GMT
I’ll be gutted if this doesn’t come back, why not perfect it here then chuck it over the pond?? Even for a short run. I really enjoyed this. And Andrew is hawt. And talented too haha It is very funny that Elton John wrote it. He must hate them I think he probably feels quite the opposite. Tammy Faye was caught up in the scandals of PTL and certainly tainted by it due to association but there was never proof that she did anything criminal. She more than redeemed herself by being an evangelical champion for the gay community and at a time when it was hardly very popular to do so. I think that is more likely what Elton respects about her and it certainly comes through in the show. |
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Nov 22, 2023 11:14:09 GMT
It is very funny that Elton John wrote it. He must hate them I think he probably feels quite the opposite. Tammy Faye was caught up in the scandals of PTL and certainly tainted by it due to association but there was never proof that she did anything criminal. She more than redeemed herself by being an evangelical champion for the gay community and at a time when it was hardly very popular to do so. I think that is more likely what Elton respects about her and it certainly comes through in the show. i did not know that , thanks for the insight. I always thought religion and gays don't work. But yet again I am approven wrong |
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Post by shownut on Nov 22, 2023 13:35:15 GMT
I think he probably feels quite the opposite. Tammy Faye was caught up in the scandals of PTL and certainly tainted by it due to association but there was never proof that she did anything criminal. She more than redeemed herself by being an evangelical champion for the gay community and at a time when it was hardly very popular to do so. I think that is more likely what Elton respects about her and it certainly comes through in the show. i did not know that , thanks for the insight. I always thought religion and gays don't work. But yet again I am approven wrong You would be correct in that assumption about the evangelical church and the gay community. But her interview with a gay man suffering from AIDS (who eventually survived) during the height of the AIDS crisis was ground breaking. I have posted it here but if you want to get to the part of interview that received the most attention (and is replicated in the musical), start at 19:25. :-) Tammy Faye interviews a gay man with AIDS |
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 11, 2024 22:17:17 GMT
The talk on broadwayworld is it will be the reopening show at the renovated Palace Theatre, after a limited series of concerts by big names. If true, the Palace seems ambitious This is opening at the Palace. It will bear some relation to the Almeida version, but obviously expanded. It’s the same creative team. Really hoping Katie goes over with it |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Mar 12, 2024 4:42:49 GMT
The palace is a barn of a theatre with nearly 1700 (?) seats. In what way will the show be expanded, because they have only written 1 new song for the broadway production. Expanding the staging to make it bigger threatens to overshadow the small show at the centre of it.
That version of If You Came To See Me Cry sounds very hollow compared to how good it sounded at the Almedia.
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Post by shownut on Mar 12, 2024 8:00:40 GMT
The palace is a barn of a theatre with nearly 1700 (?) seats. In what way will the show be expanded, because they have only written 1 new song for the broadway production. Expanding the staging to make it bigger threatens to overshadow the small show at the centre of it.
That version of If You Came To See Me Cry sounds very hollow compared to how good it sounded at the Almedia.
The size of the Palace is a bit questionable as it has been newly renovated so who knows? The show was redeveloped and had an extensive workshop last October in NY so I doubt they would have done all of that if they were merely reproducing the Almeida production with only one new song...and the only reason we are aware of that particular change is because Jake Shears referenced what inspired him to create the new number while in CABARET. Size-wise, there is certainly room for the show to grow/expand given the subject matter (PTL and The Bakkers were hardly the last word in minimalism) but I do share your hopes that Katie is Broadway's TAMMY FAYE. I also agree that the recording sounded hollow and restrained compared to hearing it live. Would imagine/hope we will hear/see more very soon. |
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Post by alece10 on Mar 12, 2024 8:33:06 GMT
The palace is a barn of a theatre with nearly 1700 (?) seats. In what way will the show be expanded, because they have only written 1 new song for the broadway production. Expanding the staging to make it bigger threatens to overshadow the small show at the centre of it.
That version of If You Came To See Me Cry sounds very hollow compared to how good it sounded at the Almedia.
The size of the Palace is a bit questionable as it has been newly renovated so who knows? The show was redeveloped and had an extensive workshop last October in NY so I doubt they would have done all of that if they were merely reproducing the Almeida production with only one new song...and the only reason we are aware of that particular change is because Jake Shears referenced what inspired him to create the new number while in CABARET. Size-wise, there is certainly room for the show to grow/expand given the subject matter (PTL and The Bakkers were hardly the last word in minimalism) but I do share your hopes that Katie is Broadway's TAMMY FAYE. I also agree that the recording sounded hollow and restrained compared to hearing it live. Would imagine/hope we will hear/see more very soon. Recording? Has this been released? I can't seem to find it anywhere. |
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Post by danb on Mar 12, 2024 8:35:12 GMT
Also Tammy Fays story is a lot more well known in the USA so ergo more people will be interested.
…although lots of folks credit ‘Legally Blonde’ doing (so much) better over here because it wasn’t in a Dominion sized behemoth like the Palace. Even the MTV search for a new Elle couldn’t save it.
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Post by shownut on Mar 12, 2024 11:11:14 GMT
The size of the Palace is a bit questionable as it has been newly renovated so who knows? The show was redeveloped and had an extensive workshop last October in NY so I doubt they would have done all of that if they were merely reproducing the Almeida production with only one new song...and the only reason we are aware of that particular change is because Jake Shears referenced what inspired him to create the new number while in CABARET. Size-wise, there is certainly room for the show to grow/expand given the subject matter (PTL and The Bakkers were hardly the last word in minimalism) but I do share your hopes that Katie is Broadway's TAMMY FAYE. I also agree that the recording sounded hollow and restrained compared to hearing it live. Would imagine/hope we will hear/see more very soon. Recording? Has this been released? I can't seem to find it anywhere. The Almeida cast recorded a handful of tracks once the show closed. I would imagine these are merely for promotional purposes and at best, might appear on the new website. |
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Mar 12, 2024 12:53:06 GMT
Some sites say the Palace has 1610 seats, which is still huge. Has the actual theatre been renovated or just lifted 30ft into the air?
I assume there were also quite a few book rewrites to workshop.
I'll definitely be going over to see it when it opens, hopefully I'll be able to combine it with Sunset Blvd
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Post by shownut on Mar 12, 2024 14:18:59 GMT
Some sites say the Palace has 1610 seats, which is still huge. Has the actual theatre been renovated or just lifted 30ft into the air? I assume there were also quite a few book rewrites to workshop. I'll definitely be going over to see it when it opens, hopefully I'll be able to combine it with Sunset Blvd From what I understand, the theatre went through an entire refurbishment with new seats, carpet, etc.....but not sure what, if any, impact the refurb might have had on capacity. It will definitely mean a much larger show if this is the case, otherwise they would be aiming for a smaller house and there are plenty currently (or about to be) available for the autumn. Hoping we get more news soon on theatre/dates/casting.....everyone is saying the Palace but that might be a rumour for all we know..... |
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Post by Jon on Mar 13, 2024 0:30:04 GMT
I wouldn't imagine the rebuilding of the Palace would cut capacity by that much, it's a big theatre.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Mar 20, 2024 13:48:48 GMT
Hopefully Katie will transfer and get that Tony. Heard a clip she sounds amazing. Her accent is really perfect. I really think it could be at circle in the square. I am not familiar with the Almeida Theatre how small is it? Is it like Fringe that just Almeida Theatre happens to be eligible for Oliviers Not according to recent posts on Broadwayworld. Apparently it might be Jessie Mueller |
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Post by shownut on Mar 20, 2024 14:25:02 GMT
Hopefully Katie will transfer and get that Tony. Heard a clip she sounds amazing. Her accent is really perfect. I really think it could be at circle in the square. I am not familiar with the Almeida Theatre how small is it? Is it like Fringe that just Almeida Theatre happens to be eligible for Oliviers Not according to recent posts on Broadwayworld. Apparently it might be Jessie Mueller I read that as well. Not a bad idea but I take what I read on BroadwayWorld with a very large grain of salt. Kudos to whoever posted it if they happen to be correct. |
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Post by thebroadwayboy on Mar 21, 2024 4:16:26 GMT
it would not be shocking. Jessie did beautiful just like Katie. But Katie's accent was spot on. I do wish this had another run at a regional just to 'size it up'
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Post by shownut on Mar 21, 2024 8:01:38 GMT
it would not be shocking. Jessie did beautiful just like Katie. But Katie's accent was spot on. I do wish this had another run at a regional just to 'size it up' Well, for what it's worth, they did put the show back into the development lab after the Almeida run, culminating in a workshop/presentation last October. The Nederlanders snatched it up pretty quickly and announced a Broadway production so it must have been in halfway decent shape. It will certainly be a much different show that what we saw at the Almeida which was a promising start but with lots of room for improvement. |
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