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Post by Matt on Aug 14, 2023 21:16:38 GMT
Christopher will be doing all matinees.
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Post by danielwhit on Aug 17, 2023 21:43:01 GMT
Visited this evening with virtually no awareness of what the show was before turning up (Theatre Roulette, so I literally didn't book it).
Having gone in cold was an interesting experience. I found myself getting much more into it as the evening progressed. At one point near midway I started mentally comparing the musical to Avenue Q (in that each song seemed to be a stand alone ode to a particular moment in someone's life). The second half lost that and was stronger, felt as it the production found itself. Probably deliberate stylistic shift.
Not sure how award winning this will be here but I'd be shocked if it doesn't win Best Lighting awards.
I'm still trying to process my thoughts. I'm having much the same reaction as I did from Hamilton, recognising it is artistically brilliant but not doing much for me.
Thought provoking, fascinating and will stick in the mind for a long time. Not sure I'd rate it especially highly though.
Will mull my thoughts further...
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Post by Matt on Aug 17, 2023 22:56:29 GMT
Visited this evening with virtually no awareness of what the show was before turning up (Theatre Roulette, so I literally didn't book it). Having gone in cold was an interesting experience. I found myself getting much more into it as the evening progressed. At one point near midway I started mentally comparing the musical to Avenue Q (in that each song seemed to be a stand alone ode to a particular moment in someone's life). The second half lost that and was stronger, felt as it the production found itself. Probably deliberate stylistic shift. Not sure how award winning this will be here but I'd be shocked if it doesn't win Best Lighting awards. I'm still trying to process my thoughts. I'm having much the same reaction as I did from Hamilton, recognising it is artistically brilliant but not doing much for me. Thought provoking, fascinating and will stick in the mind for a long time. Not sure I'd rate it especially highly though. Will mull my thoughts further... I found that I was able to enjoy it more the 2nd time as I was over the shock value of it all, and knew where it was going.
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Post by danielwhit on Aug 17, 2023 23:18:39 GMT
Yeah, I can understand that for sure. I'll listen to the cast recording at some stage - I imagine I'll appreciate it more from that.
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Post by shownut on Aug 18, 2023 6:40:23 GMT
Yeah, I can understand that for sure. I'll listen to the cast recording at some stage - I imagine I'll appreciate it more from that. I recommend the Off Broadway recording far above the Broadway one if you are choosing between the two. There were only minor changes between them, but the Off Broadway is much clearer and cleaner. The Broadway version is a mess that sounds muddled and badly produced (which is a pity). Enjoy!
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Post by intoanewlife on Aug 18, 2023 13:39:36 GMT
Yeah, I can understand that for sure. I'll listen to the cast recording at some stage - I imagine I'll appreciate it more from that. I recommend the Off Broadway recording far above the Broadway one if you are choosing between the two. There were only minor changes between them, but the Off Broadway is much clearer and cleaner. The Broadway version is a mess that sounds muddled and badly produced (which is a pity). Enjoy! Thanks for the recommendation. I've been thinking of getting it, but as the videos I have seen of the Broadway lead were...um...meh (I'm being very kind here too) compared to Kyle I was worried it wouldn't measure up. I will go for the Off-Broadway version x
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Post by Matt on Aug 19, 2023 15:31:32 GMT
Saw the matinee today with Christopher as Usher, his 2nd show? I thought he was great! I feel like I warmed to him a lot more. Some bits of the score are slightly out of his range but I like what he did with it. I’d definitely see him again in a couple of weeks.
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Post by curiouskc on Aug 19, 2023 17:29:52 GMT
Saw the matinee today with Christopher as Usher, his 2nd show? I thought he was great! I feel like I warmed to him a lot more. Some bits of the score are slightly out of his range but I like what he did with it. I’d definitely see him again in a couple of weeks. Thanks for the review of Christopher. I'm seeing the matinee next Thursday so I assume he'll be my Usher. I don't know if other understudies go on for the matinees but I noticed that Jean-Luke Worrell was a cover for some of the Thoughts and I'd love to see him on stage again (he was a brilliant Wadsworth in Cluedo last year).
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Post by Matt on Aug 19, 2023 18:43:48 GMT
Saw the matinee today with Christopher as Usher, his 2nd show? I thought he was great! I feel like I warmed to him a lot more. Some bits of the score are slightly out of his range but I like what he did with it. I’d definitely see him again in a couple of weeks. Thanks for the review of Christopher. I'm seeing the matinee next Thursday so I assume he'll be my Usher. I don't know if other understudies go on for the matinees but I noticed that Jean-Luke Worrell was a cover for some of the Thoughts and I'd love to see him on stage again (he was a brilliant Wadsworth in Cluedo last year). Christopher is doing all matinees. Jean-Luke was on for the matinee today as thought 5, and he was on for the other matinee I went to last week. He’s great, I’ve seen him as 2 thoughts now.
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Post by curiouskc on Aug 19, 2023 18:47:09 GMT
Thanks for the review of Christopher. I'm seeing the matinee next Thursday so I assume he'll be my Usher. I don't know if other understudies go on for the matinees but I noticed that Jean-Luke Worrell was a cover for some of the Thoughts and I'd love to see him on stage again (he was a brilliant Wadsworth in Cluedo last year). Christopher is doing all matinees. Jean-Luke was on for the matinee today as thought 5, and he was on for the other matinee I went to last week. He’s great, I’ve seen him as 2 thoughts now. Ooh, excellent! Here's hoping Jean-Luke is a matinee regular then.
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Post by TallPaul on Aug 20, 2023 12:10:23 GMT
Thanks to a kind offer from Dr Tom, there's a free ticket available for tomorrow night (Monday 21 August at 8pm). See Noticeboard for full details.
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Post by Dr Tom on Aug 20, 2023 15:47:29 GMT
Just to add a few of my thoughts about the show. I saw the Saturday matinee last week, which turned out to be Kyle Birch's last Usher as the cover before moving into the full time lead role. He was excellent.
I did take advantage of the ticket that toomasj kindly donated, which is just as well as my previously planned visit date got rather derailed (so please someone do claim the ticket I have available on the Noticeboard for tomorrow's performance).
About two hours before the show the Stalls were almost empty, but they had been filled by the time the show started. I presume this was the upper levels moving downstairs. I did move forward to the fifth row as there were still empty seats, which was a very good place to sit. My impression is that a lot of the audience didn't know what they had agreed to come to see. I do have a hard time with people who laugh at words like "fag" and "n*****" or want to clap along to the closing number (thankfully very few).
I don't really know the show, but the songs are quite catchy in their own right, and the plot is easy to follow. I was expecting something much more confused. The last 30 minutes are very strong. I can see why this won lots of awards. It's all very relevant to the current time. With that said, now I've seen this, I don't really feel that the impact will be as strong a second time and there's nothing that's really calling me back for a repeat viewing.
I went with four stars in the poll.
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Post by thinkbigkimmie on Aug 21, 2023 17:54:06 GMT
As noted above Kyle Ramar Freeman has another job lined up and is going to play the Lion in the upcoming pre-Broadway tour of The Wiz. It begins in Baltimore on 23 September - which is only two weeks after A Strange Loop closes at the Barbican. ... Does anyone think it likely that A Strange Loop will be extended? I can't be in London until early October. I'd love to catch it if it's still there.
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Post by Mark on Aug 21, 2023 19:18:49 GMT
Highly doubt it.
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Post by shownut on Aug 24, 2023 6:33:20 GMT
As noted above Kyle Ramar Freeman has another job lined up and is going to play the Lion in the upcoming pre-Broadway tour of The Wiz. It begins in Baltimore on 23 September - which is only two weeks after A Strange Loop closes at the Barbican. ... Does anyone think it likely that A Strange Loop will be extended? I can't be in London until early October. I'd love to catch it if it's still there. I was there last night (a second time) and the theatre was packed and with a highly energetic (in a good way) audience. It did make me ponder if a limited extension or transfer would be on the cards as this show is not the flop many anticipated.
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Post by Matt on Aug 24, 2023 8:12:02 GMT
Does anyone think it likely that A Strange Loop will be extended? I can't be in London until early October. I'd love to catch it if it's still there. I was there last night (a second time) and the theatre was packed and with a highly energetic (in a good way) audience. It did make me ponder if a limited extension or transfer would be on the cards as this show is not the flop many anticipated. Every time I’ve been it’s been full, but also mostly every time there were a good amount of seats free the day or two before. I don’t see a transfer for this, and if there was an extension it would have been announced now, and even though they more or less fill the house, that’s only done in the last couple of days so there’s not enough demand for them to see a potential for extending.
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Post by LaLuPone on Aug 24, 2023 9:07:10 GMT
Definitely a lot of papering happening through various means, it’s full but not selling!
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Post by edi on Aug 24, 2023 9:42:56 GMT
When I was there, 2 people walked out in the middle of one of the songs.
They were sitting front row so the cast did their best to make it light-hearted.
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Post by ladidah on Aug 24, 2023 9:46:22 GMT
I think that is very rude.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 24, 2023 10:38:32 GMT
Definitely a lot of papering happening through various means, it’s full but not selling! I have been offered heavily discounted tickets a number of times. So can't see any likelihood of an extension. Though with all those very famous and rich producers, they could bankroll it forever between them!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 24, 2023 10:48:07 GMT
I think that is very rude. Not as rude as the show! 😬
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Post by max on Aug 24, 2023 11:07:31 GMT
I enjoyed this musically - I keep getting hints of Carly Simon (perhaps it's the 'don't they, don't they, don't they'), but overall appreciated it more than truly enjoyed it.
I expected to be in for more of a brainteaser due to mentions of the 'strange loop' theory in publicity and reviews from when it opened in the USA - mentions of Escher and Mobius bands. So I thought we'd have strange loops of Usher walking out of a door and meeting himself, or looping/repeating scenes and conversations he's trapped in. Well, he is trapped, but it's done much more simply, naturalistically - and accessibly. The whole thing felt to me more like 'A Strange Frame' rather than 'Loop' - and I liked the way the set had a number of frames within frames, as well as frames containing 'boxed in' people that suggested the shape of phone screens when Usher looks at Grindr. Weirdly, 'Aspects Of Love' which I saw the night before, is more of a 'strange loop' with the red dress recurring across 3 generations, and people unwisely falling in love with a shadow of a former love they're still grasping for.
I could have done with more 'stage direction' lines from Usher when he was referring to the Usher he's writing into his musical, rather than his own real life. I love it in 'Kiss Of The Spiderwoman' when the cellmates 'film direct' by narrating screenplay scene setting. Was I just not keeping up when watching 'A Strange Loop' - or am I right that most of the time we're watching Usher, rather than the Usher inside the musical that he's writing? Perhaps only the Tyler Perry style gospel TV Drama felt like a written set-piece 'play within a play', plus the very extreme family had the volume on reality turned up to 11. Perhaps it's me and I needed to concentrate harder, but I think the 'Strange Loop' was a slightly pretentious sprinkling of 'weightiness' that isn't really seen through in the structuring of the piece - yet the show has enough emotional pull not to need it anyway.
It lost me with the vitriol aimed at Tyler Perry. The writer has every right, and it's useful, to call out what he sees as damaging depictions of Black life; but in the midst of a piece about finding yourself, and self-care, I found myself distracted by worrying about Tyler Perry. I've looked up his work since, and yes it looks broad, but I also read that he considered suicide a few times (before his success). Imagine knowing that your work is now lambasted and humiliated within a Pulitzer prize winning piece - that's tough. In his 40s Michael R Jackson is a bit old to be coming on like a finger wagging millennial who thinks they have to school the entire world. [Actually, I don't mean to slur Millennials - I learn far more from people younger than me these days]
Musically I enjoyed it a lot, and Kyle Birch was terrific, as were the whole cast.
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Post by matildaswinton on Aug 24, 2023 14:03:23 GMT
I think that is very rude. Not as rude as the show! 😬 Tell us how you really feel. 😂
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Post by curiouskc on Aug 24, 2023 17:16:40 GMT
Saw it this afternoon with Christopher who was brilliant. Though I do agree that he struggles vocally with high range shifts in certain songs, his mid tenor range is very strong and he nails Usher's characterisation, able to be hilarious in some moments (the one man gospel play scene) and devastating in others (his performance of Boundaries really choked me up).
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Post by interval99 on Aug 24, 2023 20:47:53 GMT
This show is like when you innocently ask a relative or friend how they are and for the next agonising hours they tell you in way too much detail.
Loved the vocals and performances of the thoughts but never a good sign when the characters of self loathing, sexual and financial woe are more appealing than the seemly self centred main lead.
Glad I saw the show as no description can fully cover how this show plays out but like the too honest relative it will be some time before want to revisit if ever.
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Post by colelarson on Aug 25, 2023 23:19:02 GMT
Saw this Friday evening and definitely fun, filthy and very different!
Amazing vocals by all and loved the first 50 minutes then it felt like it went on a bit too long, maybe an "intermission" would help. Didn't help the show started late so we finished coming on to 10pm.
I'm glad I saw it after all the hype here and Broadway but very happy I only paid £10 thanks to the National Theatre Friday rush.
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Post by timothyd on Sept 6, 2023 5:58:50 GMT
Saw this last week. Found it incredibly dull. And the sound mix was off because the music was so loud we couldn't make out the lyrics.
Beautiful theatre, boring show.
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Post by theatrekiwi on Sept 8, 2023 12:18:25 GMT
Saw this last night - I seem to have a theme of seeing things in the final week recently. Went with my partner. I loved it and he (very strongly) hated it! That's personal tastes and opinions for you It was really interesting to notice the different reactions through the audience at different parts. No applause for the AIDS song last night though moved on very quickly with the dialogue if anyone was on the verge of it. I did think there were sound mix issues (hotly debated with my Partner if it was poor sound mix or poor diction...). Some really nice work achieved with the lighting. Kyle was brilliant and made me really feel for Usher. Overall, very pleased I saw this and if it has been earlier in the run I would have sorted a return visit (without the +1!).
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Post by ladidah on Sept 8, 2023 12:59:59 GMT
I've never known such a divisive show!
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Post by Matt on Sept 8, 2023 13:00:53 GMT
I’m there for the final show tomorrow evening and honestly I’m gutted that it’s closing. I hope it lives on somehow at some point in the future.
Interested if it’s a muck up matinee tomorrow so if anyone is there please inform!
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