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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:20:10 GMT
Yeah, that's *pretty* cynical. The fact I don't own property has nothing to do with my theatre trips and everything to do with the fact that the average property in my area, which I have no desire to leave, costs fifteen times my annual wage, and even if I did have enough for a 10% deposit, no bank would be willing to lend me the rest based on the fact I am a single person with a single person's income. I know there are loads of articles out there about young people who've made great financial sacrifices and bought houses at a very tender age, but I've yet to find any such article that doesn't make reference to also receiving a large financial gift from a family member. We know the value of money - it's just that our money doesn't buy us as much as our parents' money bought them. I'm fortunate enough to be able to put money into my pension and savings, but a lot of people who spend their money as soon as they have it are doing so because they have no other choice if they want to pay their bills and keep food in the house.
ANYWAY. Bit of a soapbox there, sorry not sorry, so! What about that Hamilton, eh?!
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Post by ellie1981 on Apr 16, 2018 9:31:59 GMT
Absolutely, Baemax. I’m in exactly the same position. I do have regular standing orders going into savings accounts and pay into a pension, but even if I subsidised my leisure spending to top up those payments, it doesn’t make the slightest dent into what I could afford property wise. I’d rather live my life and enjoy it while I can than eat baked beans every night in misery with the lights off. If I had to do that for a couple of years in order to afford a property of my own then I would, but I’d literally have to do that for two decades to even try to make a start, which by that time house prices would have increased ten-fold already anyway.
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Post by showoff on Apr 16, 2018 9:37:45 GMT
Yeah, that's *pretty* cynical. The fact I don't own property has nothing to do with my theatre trips and everything to do with the fact that the average property in my area, which I have no desire to leave, costs fifteen times my annual wage, and even if I did have enough for a 10% deposit, no bank would be willing to lend me the rest based on the fact I am a single person with a single person's income. I know there are loads of articles out there about young people who've made great financial sacrifices and bought houses at a very tender age, but I've yet to find any such article that doesn't make reference to also receiving a large financial gift from a family member. We know the value of money - it's just that our money doesn't buy us as much as our parents' money bought them. I'm fortunate enough to be able to put money into my pension and savings, but a lot of people who spend their money as soon as they have it are doing so because they have no other choice if they want to pay their bills and keep food in the house. ANYWAY. Bit of a soapbox there, sorry not sorry, so! What about that Hamilton, eh?! Also, it's seems that to those people who run these articles about those who don't own their own property, there's nothing more important then buying a house and owing hundreds of thousands of pounds for your entire life. There's no value on if those who don't own their house are actually happy and leading a life that they want to live. Life is short, you could spend the next fifty years trying to pay off a house you cannot really afford, or you can have a life you look forward to living. Home-ownership isn't for everyone, and a lot of other countries don't place that much importance on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:44:54 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset.
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Post by dizzieblonde on Apr 16, 2018 10:00:32 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?!
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Post by danb on Apr 16, 2018 10:06:04 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset. Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂
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Post by showoff on Apr 16, 2018 10:27:52 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?! Well, even Hamilton himself died in debt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 10:47:27 GMT
Just an observation. Partly fuelled by so many of my peers having £20-40k cars on finance but no interest in investing in an actual asset. Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂 Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga.
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Post by danb on Apr 16, 2018 10:52:16 GMT
Nobody can see you in your house when you stop at the lights in Hampstead making assumptions about how fabulous a person you are & how much better their life is than yours can they? 😏 They will worry about it later in life, then moan about not being able to afford to get on the property ladder aged 44. 🙄😂 Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga. On Mummy & Daddy’s credit card?
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Post by ellie1981 on Apr 16, 2018 10:54:37 GMT
Which brings it back round to the "I've seen Hamilton more times than theres been Sundays since it opened, aren't I so dedicated and wondrous" saga. On Mummy & Daddy’s credit card? Only if Mummy and Daddy come with them with ID. I’m taking my Mum in July, but it was on my credit card.
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Post by Stasia on Apr 16, 2018 14:42:09 GMT
Can we get back to politics?
I mean, can people please stop judging others on the amount of theatre visits they made and money they spent? On a theatre forum of all places!
I have a suspicion, that if tell any of my non-theatre friends a story about people disussing this stuff on a forum and actually seeing a show whatever many times they want, they would name both of these types equally crazy.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 16, 2018 16:27:13 GMT
You'd think watching a show 23 times about the first Secretary of the Treasury would make for some impressively fiscally responsible people - no?! Maybe they already are. And what makes it your business?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 16:31:49 GMT
Is 'I bought too many tickets to Hamilton' the new 'Avocado toast'?
I mean seriously I don't really give a damn who is seeing what how many times. But for the judgmental types out there; I'm a Millennial (just) who earlier cried because I have to return my (only 2nd) visit to Hamilton tickets, because I can't afford the travel and accommodation. Because as a Millennial my employment situation is frankly sh*t. And yes, some of us might choose to spend money rather than save because frankly what's the point when we're never going to own property unless someone related to us dies?
Anyway, can we get back to politics yo? Surely there's an understudy to discuss or something.
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Post by MoreLife on Apr 16, 2018 16:35:49 GMT
I have a suspicion, that if tell any of my non-theatre friends a story about people disussing this stuff on a forum and actually seeing a show whatever many times they want, they would name both of these types equally crazy. Wise words! There are shows that I love so much I've gone back to see them several times over long(ish) runs, but I've always feared that too many views over a short period of time might spoil a show for me. Having said that... I spend so much time in theatres that my non-theatre-going friends would however be shocked if they knew how much I can spend in a year on tickets XD
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Post by poster J on Apr 16, 2018 16:53:55 GMT
Wow. I had thought this was a forum where you were entitled to give your opinion. And I expressly said each to their own and it was just my opinion that there is actually a point where repetitive viewing of a show just doesn't make sense TO ME. Everyone is entitled to think differently
But now I'm basically getting accused of judging people when I did no such thing - there is a difference between judgment and opinion-giving and as far as I'm concerned all I did was the latter, so the fact that I'm effectively being vilified for it rather upsets me. I find it quite sad that a comment that could have sparked a reasonable debate has instead been jumped on in an accusatory manner which frankly makes me feel like not posting my thoughts anymore for fear they may offend the majority.
If opinions are no longer welcome and if what's been said on here is what people really think of my character after so long posting on here then maybe this forum is no longer the place I thought it was, which if that's the case is a real shame.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 17:11:18 GMT
Wow. I had thought this was a forum where you were entitled to give your opinion. And I expressly said each to their own and it was just my opinion that there is actually a point where repetitive viewing of a show just doesn't make sense TO ME. Everyone is entitled to think differently But now I'm basically getting accused of judging people when I did no such thing - there is a difference between judgment and opinion-giving and as far as I'm concerned all I did was the latter, so the fact that I'm effectively being vilified for it rather upsets me. I find it quite sad that a comment that could have sparked a reasonable debate has instead been jumped on in an accusatory manner which frankly makes me feel like not posting my thoughts anymore for fear they may offend the majority. If opinions are no longer welcome and if what's been said on here is what people really think of my character after so long posting on here then maybe this forum is no longer the place I thought it was, which if that's the case is a real shame. Honestly I didn’t pay attention to “who started it” so I’d like to go on record saying it’s nothing personal and I value your opinions and input. Speaking for myself I saw a load of posts on a topic and used it to have a bit of a rant myself. So I hope no offence was called. Honestly I’m just feeling bitter about life towards Hamilton because for me cancelling my trip is a microcosm of sh*tty life
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Post by shady23 on Apr 16, 2018 17:43:13 GMT
Let's face it, the majority of the population seem to think you're completely crazy if you go to see the same show even twice, never mind twenty three times.
Yet nobody bats an eye to those who eat out in the same places every week, ordering the same thing every time and spending more money than the cost of a theatre ticket.
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Post by danb on Apr 16, 2018 18:06:14 GMT
It was me! 🙋♂️ I’m massively judgemental. Don’t blame anyone else. 😂 I sometimes think it is my only skill...
However, I can always justify spending on theatre or concert tickets because I know that it will alleviate whatever misery is currently dominating my life, even if it’s only for 3 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 18:19:15 GMT
Look lads, I’m flying across the Atlantic to sit in the theatre for two full days of my first holiday in 2 years...I mean crazy is a relative term around here right? 😂😂😂
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Post by poster J on Apr 16, 2018 18:26:11 GMT
Look lads, I’m flying across the Atlantic to sit in the theatre for two full days of my first holiday in 2 years...I mean crazy is a relative term around here right? 😂😂😂 The fact that Andrew Garfield will be on stage justifies anything though Thanks though, I think on reflection I have overreacted a bit to what's been posted on here (I blame an absolute disaster of a day at work, reflected by the fact that I am currently eating dinner at my desk knowing full well it will be dark outside before I leave), and my initial choice of words could have been better, so apologies to anyone who was just giving their opinion! And yes, I agree - my parents think I'm crazy for going to see anything even twice, and my Wicked count is the subject of a running joke in the family even though it's been accumulated over 11 years... But having seen Hamilton my sister now understands my occasional multiple viewing compulsion - so that's both a plus and vaguely back on topic!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 18:30:14 GMT
Look lads, I’m flying across the Atlantic to sit in the theatre for two full days of my first holiday in 2 years...I mean crazy is a relative term around here right? 😂😂😂 The fact that Andrew Garfield will be on stage justifies anything though On stage? I’d best be getting at least a (another) hug from that boy for getting on a plane 😂😂. But I totally get you- I had a sh*te day if it as well. Monday bloody Monday...
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 16, 2018 18:41:50 GMT
Just been looking out of curiosity on the latest ticket release: £200 for a seat in the Dress Circle?!
Cameron Mackintosh, you're having a f*cking laugh! Seriously?! What's going on here?!
I don't recall him ever blatantly profiteering like this on his previous productions.
The website lures you in with promises of tickets on the £37 and £57 range and when you actually delve into it, there are none!!
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 16, 2018 18:48:09 GMT
Not surprisingly that all the "cheap" seats in the gods have sold out first.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 16, 2018 19:12:58 GMT
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Post by melly on Apr 16, 2018 19:59:25 GMT
If the people in the front row tonight are part of the '23 times' group (which seems quite likely from what they're saying), they deserve any slagging off people want to throw at them. Squawking, squealing, whooping and fake laughing throughout. Generally any 'look at me' behaviour you can think of doing. They're not here to see the show, they're here to be seen.
They have friends around the theatre from what they're saying, but the 2 in front row (and to a lesser degree the one further along) are awful.
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Post by poster J on Apr 16, 2018 20:10:55 GMT
Not surprisingly that all the "cheap" seats in the gods have sold out first. Also the view from up there is better than from the stalls!
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 16, 2018 20:39:57 GMT
Not surprisingly that all the "cheap" seats in the gods have sold out first. Also the view from up there is better than from the stalls! Noted!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 20:40:15 GMT
Isn't the limit 6 tickets per booking period? How are these people seeing the show 20+ times?
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Post by distantcousin on Apr 16, 2018 20:41:32 GMT
If the people in the front row tonight are part of the '23 times' group, they deserve any slagging off people want to throw at them. Squawking, squealing, whooping and fake laughing throughout. Generally any 'look at me' behaviour you can think of doing. They're not here to see the show, they're here to be seen. They have friends around the theatre from what they're saying, but the 2 in front row (and to a lesser degree the one further along) are awful. When an entertainment is as hyped and has as much cultural capital/cachet as Hamilton does, it will inevitably attract the narcissists for whom it is important to be "seen"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 20:42:10 GMT
Not surprisingly that all the "cheap" seats in the gods have sold out first. Also the view from up there is better than from the stalls! Although the legroom is only acceptable if you’re under twelve, I do agree the view is fantastic. For me though, it doesn’t make up for the crushing pain.
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