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Post by robertb213 on Nov 17, 2023 21:35:44 GMT
Caught the matinee yesterday, some good music in there and Nicole Raquel Dennis and Sam Ferriday are great, but otherwise it feel like a very lethargic slog and a chore to get through. I didn't feel it told the story well and the pace dragged a lot.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 17, 2023 23:13:06 GMT
Must be bad if even All that Dazzles didn’t like it.
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Post by theatrefan572 on Nov 18, 2023 8:18:20 GMT
I saw this last night and thought it was great! Having seen the concert I do think some baffling decisions have been made regarding which songs have been cut. ‘The day Elizabeth died’ and ‘Notes’ were both excellent in the concert but they’re completely gone. There are too many ballads in Act 1. When Thomas Percy started his third in a row, I could understand the issues people have with pacing.
I do think, however, they've got the look of the show right. The increased role for Guy Fawkes was very welcome (his last speech is superb) and the reduction in narrative rap was also the right decision to make.
The cast, I think, were sublime. Special shout outs to Martha Percy and Robert Catesby.
Overall, I fear this is the last we will see of this show but it definitely doesn’t deserve to disappear. It still needs work but there’s something really good here that I still think can be fixed. I’ve really enjoyed watching the development of this and seeing it in its different stages. Hoping for more soon.
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Post by musicalqueen on Nov 19, 2023 18:27:55 GMT
I mean Treason has been very much reviewed as a bad version of Hamilton. One of my writers reviewed it for my blog and gave it 2 stars, they quickly unfollowed us on all social platforms as a result 😂 x
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Post by capybara on Nov 20, 2023 12:41:00 GMT
Looks like tomorrow night’s show at the Palladium has been quietly cancelled. Wednesday’s performance still seems woefully undersold.
I’m guessing they thought by selling out two dates at a huge venue with heavily discounted tickets, it might cover the (assumed) losses of the tour?
It appears this whole project has been wildly mismanaged and will surely be the final nail in the coffin for a flagging production. Why did they put it into Ally Pally, a 900 seat venue so far out of town and inaccessible for most? Why is it going to the Palladium off the back of dire reviews?
Personally I thought it was quite a bad show, as I posted at the time, but I feel desperately sorry for the performers involved who have been so let down by some terrible decision making.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 20, 2023 13:46:01 GMT
The Palladium thing was quite last minute because (correct me if I'm wrong) they were due to visit Dartford but the theatre is closed because of the concrete thing that became a problem for Northampton amongst others?
Wildly misjudged, but they probably got the Palladium slightly cheaper than it would normally be as it was relatively last minute and it would give the Palladium some income for that evening rather than being dark and having £0 (it's how it works for me in my venue hiring although it's on a smaller scale than the Palladium obvs!)
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 20, 2023 16:32:24 GMT
It does feel that given how well the TRDL concert went, they've got a little too big for their boots and misjudged quite how popular this is... not least given the bad reviews from the touring dates. Should have put all their efforts (and marketing spend) into the Ally Pally dates instead if that's the venue they chose to go with.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Nov 23, 2023 7:23:42 GMT
It does feel that given how well the TRDL concert went, they've got a little too big for their boots and misjudged quite how popular this is... not least given the bad reviews from the touring dates. Should have put all their efforts (and marketing spend) into the Ally Pally dates instead if that's the venue they chose to go with. I also think they rushed it. It wasn’t ready. Just because something works quite well as an album of songs and sells well in a concert setting with star names doesn’t mean you can just quickly throw it on its feet and make it work as a full musical. There’s a reason most musicals take years to develop - and that’s with teams of seasoned creatives who understand musical theatre. I do feel the young writers behind this have been mismanaged and would have benefitted from an experienced producer taking time to really develop this with them rather than throw it together in a year. It could have evolved into something rather good.
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