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Post by stevemar on Dec 14, 2021 22:09:57 GMT
Stephen - no songs or rotating set (I didn’t see LoL).
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Post by Jon on Dec 15, 2021 2:14:34 GMT
I imagine it will work well on the live broadcasts, which may reduce the likelihood of a West End transfer. Unless the audience for live streams is different from that for West End transfers. Neither actor is big enough to attract a West End audience, I would have thought. The other issue is that Charles Edwards will be unavailable for any possible transfer in early 2022 as he has filming commitments.
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Post by barelyathletic on Dec 16, 2021 11:41:21 GMT
Saw this last night. It's smart and slickly done but just feels like a reconstruction, without the necessary drama to grab you and get you involved. Despite strong performances all round it's also hard to like anyone in it and it left me cold. Although the point it makes about the rise of celebrity opinion in the media is interesting it also doesn't need to take two hours to make that point. Disappointing. Three stars.
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Post by lonlad on Dec 16, 2021 19:30:24 GMT
Why do you have to "like" the people in it? They're not there to befriend you. As long as they engage me and draw my attention, I am more than happy. This is a thrilling evening and deserves to take the town.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Dec 16, 2021 19:56:03 GMT
Saw this last night. It's smart and slickly done but just feels like a reconstruction, without the necessary drama to grab you and get you involved. Despite strong performances all round it's also hard to like anyone in it and it left me cold. Although the point it makes about the rise of celebrity opinion in the media is interesting it also doesn't need to take two hours to make that point. Disappointing. Three stars. Completely agree with everything you say. I wanted the drama to kick in to justify the length. It didn’t. Well acted and staged. But not a great play.
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Post by n1david on Dec 17, 2021 7:46:34 GMT
Saw this last night and was very relieved it went ahead given what's on the go...
But I wasn't wowed by it. I did enjoy it a lot, but I have high expectations of James Graham's plays and was disappointed given those expectations. In its favour, I thought it was terrifically acted and very well staged - always something going on, creative use of the spaces. However it felt a bit 2-dimensional to me; this was an interesting story but I felt that the parallels to present day were a bit heavy-handed and signalled rather than just being there for people to work out for themselves. A good night out at the theatre but not one of Graham's best; given current theatre environment, I'm not sure there will be a future life for this.
Interestingly, I didn't check beforehand how well-sold this was, but I'd say the auditorium was only about 70% full. Nearly everyone in masks though.
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Post by stevemar on Dec 17, 2021 10:13:25 GMT
n1david - when I looked earlier yesterday, it was around 70/80% sold, so not much further drop off in the hours before the show, I’d say.
Was the bar really busy? The main issue with the Young Vic is how crowded it is pre show and at the interval as the queues for the loos merge with the bar. The separate entrances/exits haven’t resolved that. Though having said that, during normal times, I’ve had some great nights in the Cut bar!
I’m pretty much with you in your verdict of the show.
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Post by n1david on Dec 17, 2021 10:21:40 GMT
No, it was very quiet and no issues getting served pre-show. Not bad at the interval. It looked like it was mostly theatre-goers without the usual passing trade/locals. I normally find it chaotic and not a very easy-to-use space, but no issues last night.
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Post by Dave B on Dec 17, 2021 14:28:14 GMT
Another one down, next four shows cancelled.
Fri 17 Dec, 7.30pm Sat 18 Dec, 2.30pm Sat 18 December, 7.30pm Mon 20 December, 2.30pm
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Post by Mark on Dec 17, 2021 14:33:57 GMT
There goes my Monday matinee.
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Post by andrew on Dec 20, 2021 15:06:16 GMT
Aaaaand now closed completely until the third, so that's the second thing in a row I'll not see now probably at the young vic due to cancellation. Rough times!
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jan 1, 2022 16:40:55 GMT
The actor playing Matt tested positive for COVID on I think that Saturday (18th). They could have found an understudy for him? Unless more of the cast/crew/YV staff got it as well?
Anyway, the rest of the run is completely sold out for its return owing to all the cancellations and the race to rebook tickets from everyone who had tix for the cancelled shows. Thank goodness for the broadcasts eh?
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Post by budd on Jan 3, 2022 7:55:25 GMT
Gutted that I only heard of this from the reviews and much later after they'd come out and now it's all sold. Does anyone have information about the broadcast?
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Post by teamyali on Jan 3, 2022 14:23:41 GMT
Gutted that I only heard of this from the reviews and much later after they'd come out and now it's all sold. Does anyone have information about the broadcast? I live outside the UK and was able to book for the broadcast. My friend sent me this link: www.youngvic.org/whats-on/best-of-enemies-broadcast
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Post by budd on Jan 3, 2022 15:09:18 GMT
Gutted that I only heard of this from the reviews and much later after they'd come out and now it's all sold. Does anyone have information about the broadcast? I live outside the UK and was able to book for the broadcast. My friend sent me this link: www.youngvic.org/whats-on/best-of-enemies-broadcastThanks a lot!
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Post by Mark on Jan 4, 2022 23:16:27 GMT
Some returns have been made available online for tomorrow.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2022 17:30:37 GMT
So glad I was able to get a ticket for the Matinee today. Really enjoyed it, James Graham’s writing again brilliant with two very good central performances. I was in the £10 seats (E68/69) and view was fine.
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Post by theatrefan77 on Jan 5, 2022 17:47:28 GMT
Good to know that the view is fine. Thank you. I'll be seating near those seats on Saturday matinee -D70 I think-. Was a bit worried that the view would be obstructed.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2022 18:12:52 GMT
Good to know that the view is fine. Thank you. I'll be seating near those seats on Saturday matinee -D70 I think-. Was a bit worried that the view would be obstructed. It’s honestly fine, it’s a bit of an odd angle during the debates but you get used to it. Certainly didn’t detract.
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Post by drmaplewood on Jan 10, 2022 14:21:24 GMT
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jan 12, 2022 11:03:57 GMT
They were back on last night as I was there (finally got to see it via a lucky dip ticket - ended up on the second row!!).
Had a word with Charles Edwards later and he said it seemed to be a "suspected" case but that was quickly resolved. Maybe it was cancelled as a precaution?
Anyway, this show was superb. Spectacular performances from everyone but particularly the two leads. Have never seen much of Mr Harewood but I was spellbound by his acting. Loved the facial ticking.
Also, shocked nobody's mentioned this, but if anybody enjoys the thought of seeing Mr Edwards topless, you're in for a treat.
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Post by Mark on Jan 12, 2022 11:07:06 GMT
If a transfer was on the cards could the Criterion be a candidate for a limited run?
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Post by caa on Jan 12, 2022 17:28:47 GMT
Also saw it last night and thought it was fantastic, I had a £10 seat on the front row.
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Post by Rory on Jan 12, 2022 18:09:27 GMT
If a transfer was on the cards could the Criterion be a candidate for a limited run? It's the only one which would be available, from what we know.
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jan 13, 2022 12:32:56 GMT
Friend managed to get tix for a matinee yesterday so ended up seeing it again! Then James Graham shows up after the show. Had a good little chat with him. He's a really lovely guy.
He said a transfer is very likely at this point. It's not absolutely guaranteed and nothing has been set in stone yet, but given its success despite the virus situation, it was inevitable.
Next Spring has been suggested, and James is very eager and optimistic to keep David and Charles in the leads.
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Post by drmaplewood on Jan 14, 2022 12:38:49 GMT
There's a sprinkle of tickets on sale at the moment, just bagged a lucky dip for Monday!
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Post by Stephen on Jan 17, 2022 8:33:49 GMT
What do the Young Vic offer with regards to programmes etc?
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Post by cavocado on Jan 17, 2022 15:30:22 GMT
What do the Young Vic offer with regards to programmes etc? Friend I went with bought a programme which included interviews with Jeremy Herrin and James Graham.
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Post by Jon on Jan 17, 2022 15:50:53 GMT
If a transfer was on the cards could the Criterion be a candidate for a limited run? The Criterion seems too small for this show but perhaps they can alter it in some way.
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Post by orchidman on Jan 19, 2022 0:43:26 GMT
Maybe the day will come when critics and audiences grasp that writing about intellectual topics and intelligent people does not automatically make you an intelligent writer. That day was not today.
James Graham reclaims his crown as the king of middlebrow obviousness with a play that is thematically a complete retread of Ink, his earlier piece that dramatised a story that was by comparison both less well known and more interesting.
A great example of the playwriting technique of throwing enough at the audience that they don't realise you have absolutely nothing of value to say, when a playwright who knew what they were saying could have let the audience out an hour earlier and largely delivered the same story.
BUT GUYS, HAS ANYONE EVER NOTICED THAT DONALD TRUMP IS A GOOD TELEVISION PERSONALITY BUT A BAD POLITICIAN? GUYS!
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