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Post by max on Apr 17, 2024 9:12:05 GMT
The way I wouldn´t pay more than a tenner for this. How on earth are the cheapest seats 40 quid??!!?! The same as Guys and Dolls standing, for example... The DVD of the live show is out, so people really do only need to pay £10 to see what it's all about, and avoid the fandom crowd (which I always find difficult as all that fervour makes me resist and lean the other way). amyja89, if you're unsure bag a DVD and spend the big money on something else.
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Post by capybara on Apr 17, 2024 9:13:01 GMT
What exactly are the issues with this show? Am spending two day in London in May and this just popped up as a rare Tuesday matinee opportunity on the 28th. Was going to stump up the big bucks just to get a ticket and forget about it until then, but these comments have given me pause! It is simply a bad show? I have no connection/knowledge of Heathers beyond the movie. Do you think it's worth hanging on for a TodayTix offer or similar? It’s a very good show. Listen to the cast recording and you’ll soon get an idea of whether the style is for you or not. But there’s definitely a snobbery towards it because of how often it comes back around, on tour or now in the West End. I suppose it’s best described as ‘Heathers fatigue’ but that’s mainly coming from people who have no intention of going to see it anyway.
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on Apr 17, 2024 9:44:07 GMT
What exactly are the issues with this show? Am spending two day in London in May and this just popped up as a rare Tuesday matinee opportunity on the 28th. Was going to stump up the big bucks just to get a ticket and forget about it until then, but these comments have given me pause! It is simply a bad show? I have no connection/knowledge of Heathers beyond the movie. Do you think it's worth hanging on for a TodayTix offer or similar? My personal issue is that I listened to the off-Broadway album religiously when it came out, knew it inside out. The UK production has turned the show into a bit of a pantomime and I think it's lost all it's edge. In fairness, seeing clips from the original off-Broadway production, that staging didn't seem to wow me either. I think there's a good show with a killer score in there but Andy Flickman's direction for both productions takes all the grit out of it. Would love to see a director take this show on who understands the campy nature, but also the darker elements (Jamie Lloyd used to be excellent at this a la Urinetown, but his style seems to be a lot different as of late)
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Post by danb on Apr 17, 2024 9:50:29 GMT
There is a filmed version on Amazon freevee you could have a look at if you wanted an idea of the tone etc. I wouldn’t watch it all, but just to give yourself an idea.
I disagree that they need to lean into the camp more; it shouldn’t be. It should be deadly serious with the naturally campy bits speaking for themselves .
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Post by BVM on Apr 17, 2024 9:59:46 GMT
What exactly are the issues with this show? Am spending two day in London in May and this just popped up as a rare Tuesday matinee opportunity on the 28th. Was going to stump up the big bucks just to get a ticket and forget about it until then, but these comments have given me pause! It is simply a bad show? I have no connection/knowledge of Heathers beyond the movie. Do you think it's worth hanging on for a TodayTix offer or similar? I mean it can't be a "bad" show as it keeps returning and has lots of very loyal fans. For me the original had three problems - I felt visually it looked very cheap (classic Kenwright wobbly set) - There was an absolute circus surrounding CHF's appearance and her fangirl army (so much so that as a single man over 40 I felt a bit uncomfortable in the audience when I went). Stagedoor and Twitter were out of control. Flying cupcakes in the auditorium etc etc. - I had a meh response to the show - but I dunno if in the absence of the above two factors I'd have enjoyed it more. I did actually buy the CD (keen to support pretty much any London musical actually bothering with an OLC AND releasing it physically) and the score is not bad - actually enjoyed listening to it more in my living room than seeing the show. But don't think there is any reason not to go and make up your own mind!
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Post by amyja89 on Apr 17, 2024 10:02:00 GMT
Thanks for all the thoughts! I think I'll keep tabs on how the date is selling and see if I can grab a discount anywhere if it doesn't fill up.
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Post by jacob on Apr 17, 2024 11:25:13 GMT
Thanks for all the thoughts! I think I'll keep tabs on how the date is selling and see if I can grab a discount anywhere if it doesn't fill up. To contribute as well. there’s some extensive lore regarding the fanbase that initially gravitated towards this show when it first opened over here. It’d been absent from America for a while, and Heathers kinda blew up within the younger theatre demographic when it began on the West End. Beyond the drama, I think it’s a decent show with a fun score and an amusing book. It’s not a spectacle, but humorous and gripping enough:) not something I’d pay more than £40 for. Some have a grudge also due to the fact that it’s been touring quite frequently now, although I’ve seen shows like Six at the same venue on tour within the space of a year. So who knows….
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Post by jaye on Apr 17, 2024 15:20:39 GMT
I've loved the show when it first came out. It just feels overdone now. I'd love to see a new staging, maybe a little darker, with actual 80s style costumes. And I never liked the Candy Store choreography.
I also understand that this show is a cash cow and safe investment for the producers, so I see why it's coming back.
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Post by manchestertheatrefan on Apr 17, 2024 17:29:15 GMT
Personally I think the show is good (definitely not great, but not bad either), It does suffer with cheap staging, but I can look beyond that. For me the issue will always be the audience, it has a massive following in the younger girl (and gay) audiences, that scream, squeal and cheer non-stop and it is hard to ignore and enjoy the show.
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Post by amyja89 on Apr 17, 2024 17:37:46 GMT
Personally I think the show is good (definitely not great, but not bad either), It does suffer with cheap staging, but I can look beyond that. For me the issue will always be the audience, it has a massive following in the younger girl (and gay) audiences, that scream, squeal and cheer non-stop and it is hard to ignore and enjoy the show. I must say I don't mind a bit of that on the right kinds of occasions. I'm a gay girl, (hanging on for dear life to the 'younger' part at 34!), so maybe this will be fun for me.
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Post by manchestertheatrefan on Apr 17, 2024 17:44:43 GMT
Personally I think the show is good (definitely not great, but not bad either), It does suffer with cheap staging, but I can look beyond that. For me the issue will always be the audience, it has a massive following in the younger girl (and gay) audiences, that scream, squeal and cheer non-stop and it is hard to ignore and enjoy the show. I must say I don't mind a bit of that on the right kinds of occasions. I'm a gay girl, (hanging on for dear life to the 'younger' part at 34!), so maybe this will be fun for me. If you go in expecting it, and you are happy with it, then I'm sure you will have a great time, as I said the show is good (or was the twice I've watched it live). If you are not expecting that behaviour it does snap you back to reality too many times. Now I just listen to the cast recording and have watched the filmed version. I would say don't listen too much to the people that say it has outstayed it's welcome, as if that is the case, there is a lot of West End shows that are well overdue a break, it still draws a crowd.
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on Apr 18, 2024 8:29:36 GMT
TBH, I don't think it would receive quite as much criticism if it had opened (or initially transferred) in a small West End house and had remained open this whole time (probably not viable, but just as a thought) - I think the feeling of it constantly 'returning' and the feeling of it 'taking up space' at The Other Palace (which was designed to champion and develop new work) just added to the general feeling of malaise that some people experience with this show...
...I still don't like the direction though.
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Post by thestageyscribbles on Apr 18, 2024 8:50:20 GMT
Does anyone have any ideas on a cast for this? Would they use the same cast for the West End run as the tour cast? It would make sense to surely because then they wouldn’t have to rehearse a new cast in.. but then again, they ran tour and The Other Palace runs respectively at the same time last year so nothing seems to be logical in the way that they’re doing things, therefore anything is possible.
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Post by Dr Tom on Apr 18, 2024 10:43:07 GMT
Does anyone have any ideas on a cast for this? Would they use the same cast for the West End run as the tour cast? It would make sense to surely because then they wouldn’t have to rehearse a new cast in.. but then again, they ran tour and The Other Palace runs respectively at the same time last year so nothing seems to be logical in the way that they’re doing things, therefore anything is possible. I have no insider information, but I'd think of this as a tour stop. Earlier in the thread, people were suggesting that previous cast members were returning, which makes sense as it reduces rehearsal time/cost (obviously, it would be those people who aren't currently working elsewhere).
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Post by thestageyscribbles on Apr 24, 2024 19:42:12 GMT
Does anyone have any inside info on casting for this production? Will they keep it the same across the UK tour and Soho Place runs and will they do repeat castings or are previous cast members just teasing this to create hype?
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Post by marob on Apr 24, 2024 19:50:05 GMT
It’s been pointed out on here in the past that it’s pretty much standard practice for Paul Taylor Mills’ productions to only bother to announce the cast a few days before they open.
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 24, 2024 19:51:38 GMT
It’s been pointed out on here in the past that it’s pretty much standard practice for Paul Taylor Mills’ productions to only bother to announce the cast a few days before they open. Mainly because they've usually not cast them til the day before rehearsals start 👀
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Post by thestageyscribbles on Apr 24, 2024 20:32:10 GMT
Erin Caldwell has just commented on the new Heathers teaser post “they are in for a TREAT”.. I don’t think she’d come back to it as that would mean she’d have to leave Six early but curious as to what she knows?
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Post by properjob on Apr 24, 2024 20:58:11 GMT
Erin Caldwell has just commented on the new Heathers teaser post “they are in for a TREAT”.. I don’t think she’d come back to it as that would mean she’d have to leave Six early but curious as to what she knows? She could just mean that the new cast whoever they are, are in for a treat as they will enjoy doing the show.
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Post by hannechalk on Apr 24, 2024 21:03:28 GMT
Personally I think the show is good (definitely not great, but not bad either), It does suffer with cheap staging, but I can look beyond that. For me the issue will always be the audience, it has a massive following in the younger girl (and gay) audiences, that scream, squeal and cheer non-stop and it is hard to ignore and enjoy the show. I must say I don't mind a bit of that on the right kinds of occasions. I'm a gay girl, (hanging on for dear life to the 'younger' part at 34!), so maybe this will be fun for me. I was 46 when I saw it, am not gay, and thoroughly enjoyed it on my cheap ticket.
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Post by properjob on Apr 25, 2024 18:21:06 GMT
They have been slowly filling in all the gaps in the tour schedule in the website.
I've pasted it below but couldn't be bothered to remove all the "Book Now"
UK TOUR 2024 Theatre Royal Windsor 24 - 27 July Book Now Theatre Royal Bath 30 July - 3 August Book Now King's Theatre Portsmouth 6 - 10 August Book Now Wales Millennium Centre, Cardiff 13 - 17 August Book Now Perth Theatre and Concert Hall 27 - 31 August Book Now Theatre Royal Newcastle 3 -7 September Book Now Milton Keynes Theatre 10 - 14 September Book Now Storyhouse Chester 17 - 21 September Book Now His Majesty's Aberdeen 24 - 28 September Book Now Sheffield Lyceum Theatre 1 - 5 October Book Now Stockton Globe Theatre 15 - 19 October Book Now Oxford Playhouse 22 - 26 October Book Now Blackpool Grand Theatre 29 October - 2 November Book Now Princess Theatre Torquay 5 - 9 November Book Now Cambridge Arts Theatre 19 - 23 November Book Now
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Post by thestageyscribbles on May 1, 2024 16:48:37 GMT
Hi, me again, does anybody have any guesses on casting for this? I saw Gary Lloyd posted about auditioning a couple of days ago, not sure when this will be announced as they’ve been posting cryptic teases on socials (as per!) Any guesses would be better than mine at this point?
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Post by hannechalk on May 2, 2024 6:05:07 GMT
Liam Dean and Jacob Fowler have been teasing on TikTok. Carly Burns told me she had something lined up she couldn't talk about yet. Tom Scanlon now teasing on twitter too Yawn. Snore fest of a cast Tom Scanlon won't be in it - he's doing Burlesque the Tour.
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Post by Seriously on May 2, 2024 23:04:04 GMT
Liam Dean and Jacob Fowler have been teasing on TikTok. Carly Burns told me she had something lined up she couldn't talk about yet. Tom Scanlon now teasing on twitter too Yawn. Snore fest of a cast So you're bored of a cast that hasn't been announced yet?
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Post by thestageyscribbles on May 3, 2024 0:40:59 GMT
Do you guys think that people from previous PTM projects would be casted? Say, for example, Abbie Budden or Rhianne Louise?
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Post by bigredapple on May 3, 2024 21:23:36 GMT
Looks like this isn’t selling well for London
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