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Post by poster J on Mar 18, 2017 14:18:17 GMT
Just seen the movie, and although I enjoyed it a lot, it made me want to rewatch the cartoon. You just can't beat Angela Lansbury singing Beauty and the Beast. Ah...I fear that rewatching the animated version before seeing the new version may have been a bad idea then... oh well, will probably see it sometime next week anyway.
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Post by Jon on Mar 18, 2017 14:45:50 GMT
I don't like Imax 3D. The 3D bugs me: unlike Real-D they use linear polarisation which makes the backs of the seats in front of me look bright to one eye and dark to the other. And the Imax makes me seasick, which is weird because I never feel seasick on an actual sea: the film itself is no problem but the attention-grabbing motion-heavy advertisements on that vision-filling screen make me queasy. Unfortunately all the regular 3D screenings near me are in the afternoon, and I prefer morning screenings because they're quieter and generally have fewer idiots. I've never seen an imax 3D film where the 3D effect is as good as it is in the advert for imax 3D that they show you before the film itself. Laser IMAX makes 3D IMAX films much better although nothing can beat 70mm IMAX.
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Post by westendcub on Mar 18, 2017 14:53:14 GMT
I went again this morning, even better 2nd time round.
I got more emotional today, you really do care for Cotsworth, Mrs Potts & co...beautiful moment in the finale.
I think 'Days in the Sun' & 'Evermore' are just beautiful, I was sad 'IfIcamt love her' didn't make the film but that now lives with the stage show and with have something different in the film.
There is a clever nod to the stage show with 'Home' inside the score!
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Post by ptwest on Mar 18, 2017 16:00:00 GMT
Just back from running the gauntlet with a cinema full of children at Sheffield. Have to say I was mostly very impressed, really enjoyed it overall. Would have preferred a better singer than Emma Watson but she played the part well. The only part that really jarred with me was the beasts solo - I too would have preferred "if I can't love her" or at least the song being at that point in the film. But, the additional sequences fitted well and the climatic scenes packed more of an emotional punch than I was expecting. It won't top the animated version, but overall, enough good about it to make it worthwhile.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 19:23:14 GMT
Saw it yesterday and on the whole thought it was pretty good. Good first third, good last third although the gay orgy we were promised at the end was a bit of a damp squid
Emma Thompson was awful and normally I love her. Voice work isn't her forte
Acting isn't Emma Watsons forte but I guess she's just there to look pretty. Can't wait til she losses her looks and she stops getting work coz she is just awful! Actually, she can play happy but anything else and she just looks slightly disgusted. And HOW crappy is the thing on her voice!? My, how I repeatedly laughed
The guy playing Gaston was better than iv ever seen him but I guess he was very much at home
On the whole I'd say it was alright. Not the car crash I was fearing/hoping for. Shame they had to pick EW. Kept thinking how wonderful Emma Stone would have been in it. With her it could have closely reached CLASSIC status.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 18, 2017 19:57:34 GMT
I loved it. Realised I had a huge grin on my face at the end, but at the same time tearing up because it was so lovely.
I still maintain that EW was the wrong choice but she won me over by the end so I'm not going to go on about it.
Pure escapism. Just forget the animated version and see it with an open mind.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 18, 2017 20:15:09 GMT
Acting isn't Emma Watsons forte but I guess she's just there to look pretty. Can't wait til she losses her looks and she stops getting work coz she is just awful! That's so mean, mom is that you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 20:51:04 GMT
I don't think it's escapism at all. I was stressed for the whole movie because of how poor most of it was. So, yeah….
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 18, 2017 23:07:25 GMT
I couldn't relax either. Watching Emma Watson makes me so uncomfortable. She is an absolutely appalling 'actress'. She ruins this otherwise wonderful film.
She can't sing.
She can't show any emotion
She reacts to nothing.
I'm rather staggered she wasn't fired on the first day of filming. Her poor co-stars, must be easier to act with a tennis ball on a stick than her.
Her aside it's a feast of a film- particularly loved Audra and Ewan McG was good, Be Our Guest was dazzling and Luke Evans was good. Sadly I found the whole gay Josh Gad thing tedious and a right kerfuffle over nothing. More shocking was how unfunny he was.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:13:47 GMT
To me, Lumiere and Cogsworth are generally always such highlight characters in the show or in the original movie, but I literally can't remember either of these characters in this new movie. That's really awkward.
But yes, one cannot go overboard enough about how abysmal Emma Watson was on that screen. She took bad to a whole other level. She had the same expression for the entire movie, and she was acting like as if she thought she was Meryl Streep. When do we expect her to retire?
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Post by bren on Mar 19, 2017 0:02:58 GMT
^ I haven't seen this yet but a huge 'No' from me to the suggestion of Emma Stone as Belle. I don't think I could bear to sit through it with her. Though maybe I'll eat my words when I see Emma Watson.
Emma has a sweet voice; obviously it's quite delicate but the level of auto tune is unnecessary.
It would maybe have been better to cast an unknown like they did with Cinderella?
Still, it all seems to be working out box office wise- monstrous so far!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 0:12:01 GMT
Yeah as soon as I would start to relax and enjoy it something hideously awkward would happen, usually of Emma Watson's doing.
(Phillipa Soo should have been Belle).
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Post by Jon on Mar 19, 2017 1:15:15 GMT
I saw it tonight and really enjoyed it, unlike Cinderella and The Jungle Book, it doesn't really expand the original but it's a visual treat with a gorgeous score.
Emma Watson was okay as Belle but the real star of the film is Luke Evans as Gaston, he really shines in the role and he and Josh Gad work well together. I did like some of the changes although there is one scene which could have cut and it would have not hurt the film one jot.
Overall, I think it's the second best of the live action Disney films and while it's not as good as the original film, it doesn't disgrace itself.
I know Disney has Mulan and Aladdin in the pipeline but I would love to see The Hunchback of Notre Dame get the live action treatment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 1:25:52 GMT
YES to Hunchback. Hands down the best Disney soundtrack.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 19, 2017 1:29:17 GMT
YES to Hunchback. Hands down the best Disney soundtrack. Yeah, I tend to agree.
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Post by Jon on Mar 19, 2017 1:30:17 GMT
YES to Hunchback. Hands down the best Disney soundtrack. Hunchback to me if they adapted to live action needs to use the stage version's book or a script that is much closer to the original novel. It would need to be a budget similar to Les Mis of $60-75m so they could make it darker.
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Post by Jon on Mar 19, 2017 3:08:33 GMT
Also, did I really spot Haydn Gwynne in the ensemble?? Not only Haydn Gwynne but also Michael Jibson!
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 19, 2017 7:34:30 GMT
Also, did I really spot Haydn Gwynne in the ensemble?? Not only Haydn Gwynne but also Michael Jibson! Yeah, I also spotted Michael Jibson.
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Post by zsazsa on Mar 19, 2017 9:03:39 GMT
Also Jimmy Johnston (Will Parker in NT's Oklahoma)
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Post by westendcub on Mar 19, 2017 9:56:50 GMT
I've read that they plan to do 'Mulan' like 'Cinderella' & 'The Jungle Book' with no songs...I think that's a big shame as generally 'I'll Make a Man Out of You' is one of Disney's best musical numbers ever but production hasn't started and with 'Beauty and the Beast' breaking box office records that may change!
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 19, 2017 10:55:05 GMT
Also Jimmy Johnston (Will Parker in NT's Oklahoma) Really? I don't recall.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 19, 2017 11:05:40 GMT
Saw this last night and was so apprehensive - it could have been rubbish. THANKFULLY, it was bloody brilliant!
As everyone has said, Luke Evans is the star. Totally cool, dashing, and a fantastic voice - proves what we've said all along about having people trained to do these roles! Thought Dan Stevens was also great, he sang Evermore very well. I'm so glad they've made the Beast have a sense of humour! Emma Watson I agree isn't great, however it bothered me less as we went on, and by the end I'd forgotten she was pretty naff.
Loved the objects - Audra (obviously) and Emma Thompson were my standouts. Ian McKellen and Ewan McGregor were both hilarious as their little double act.
I actually cried at two points too - Be Our Guest was outstanding as it just got bigger and bigger and bigger and more spectacular. And then I cried right at the end when they were singing the finale (I did an involuntary fist pump as the 'Josh Gad' moment - although it's blink and you miss it so I don't think they should have made as much out of it as they have - glad it's there though.)
I can't wait to see what happens with the rest of these live animated remakes - if this is what we get for Beauty and the Beast then the possibilities are endless for Milan etc (I'm desperate for Hunchback live action with the score from the musical!)
Sorry this was a bit long, but a massive 5* from me!
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Post by jek on Mar 19, 2017 11:13:20 GMT
Looking forward to seeing this this afternoon. Had a nice Disney musical related experience yesterday. A local community event (here in East London, at the Museum of London Docklands branch) had different groups/choirs singing in it. My daughter and her teenage friends represented a local music trust and their performance was sandwiched between a Lithuanian choir and the gloriously named 'Sputnik Association of Russian Women and the Globus Supplementary School'. The latter consisted of two women and assorted children all dressed in national costume (including a very serious young boy in a wonderful pioneer's style outfit). Alongside a funked up version of Kalinka (including a rap middle section) and Borodin's Stranger In Paradise they also sang, in Russian, Once Upon A December from Anastasia. Absolutely charmed the lot of us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 11:18:36 GMT
As much as i love the songs in Mulan, i think if they want to make the movie a bit more true to the legend it would make sense not to have the songs.
I saw the movie yesterday and it was so much better than i was expecting.
Luke Evans was great as Gaston, although acting wise it wasnt a massive stretch for him, villains seem to be his thing now. His voice is good but i dont quite see what everyone is raving about. Josh Gad was great, really made Lefou more of a character.
Emma got better as the movie went on, she still wouldnt be my first choice but she just about pulls it off.
Dan as the beast was good although the cgi didn't quite work. and there were other moments in the movie where the cgi/effects seemed a bit poor
Emma Thompson, god knows what that accent is meant to be but it was bad. Lumiere and Cogsworth were both great. Liked audres character but actually didnt like her singing which surprised me. Be Our Guest didnt quite work for me as it went back to animation which is understandable but then its not lice action. The same issue i have with a 'live action' lion king.
The little additions to the story were great although not sure on the trip to paris and enchantress at the end.
Niggles aside though the story and music are so magical you just get swept along and the two hours flew by.
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Post by Jon on Mar 19, 2017 14:47:29 GMT
I've read that they plan to do 'Mulan' like 'Cinderella' & 'The Jungle Book' with no songs...I think that's a big shame as generally 'I'll Make a Man Out of You' is one of Disney's best musical numbers ever but production hasn't started and with 'Beauty and the Beast' breaking box office records that may change! I think until BATB, the songs in Mulan aren't necessary and the film would still work without them, it's a film I envisioned working better without the songs and in live action
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Post by zsazsa on Mar 19, 2017 15:08:15 GMT
Also Jimmy Johnston (Will Parker in NT's Oklahoma) Really? I don't recall. He was either "Tom, Dick or Stanley" in 'Gaston'
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 19, 2017 15:49:57 GMT
He was either "Tom, Dick or Stanley" in 'Gaston' Ah, cheers zsazsa!
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Post by lolli on Mar 19, 2017 23:25:29 GMT
Audra McDonald is wonderful in this
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 23:35:26 GMT
Spotted Jimmy Johnston alright during the mob scene, and was delighted to see him having loved his performance in Oklahoma! all those years ago.
Also, I'm sick to my teeth of people saying they were crying at this film.
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Post by westendcub on Mar 19, 2017 23:41:53 GMT
What's wrong with crying? If you emotionally connect to a film or a show it's quite normal to have a cry and a few tears.
I found it's ending very moving in how they did it (Yes I know the story backwards) and shed a few tears on my 2nd visit yesterday. I have very fond family memories attached to 'Beauty and the Beast'.
I don't recommend seeing the musical 'Titanic'..it's hard to hold back tears throughout Act 2!!
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