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Post by Michael on May 24, 2016 0:24:57 GMT
Disney have released a first teaser trailer of the Beauty and the Beast film that will be released in March 2017.
I got goosebumps while watching this trailer. So looking forward to the film, but I'm slightly disappointed that the additional songs written for the musical will not be included - especially If I Can't Love Her, one of my favourite songs, not only from BatB but in general. At least Alan Menken is on board to compose the film's score, so, to quote one of his songs, I see the light.
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Post by indis on May 24, 2016 3:31:35 GMT
I am soo looking forward to this - hope we get a longer trailer soon and more of Harriet Jones as the Queen, in this it is only a blurry painting of the princes family
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 4:33:08 GMT
Certainly a teaser. Looks beautiful though.
Why oh why oh why does it take so long to get movies out?
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Post by viserys on May 24, 2016 5:59:41 GMT
Lots more post-production and CGI fuss these days I'd think.
Also, there used to be a time when we had ONE trailer come up 2-3 months before the start when the marketing campaign started. Now we get teaser trailers and teasers of trailers and whatnot to start the hype months before and by the time the actual movie comes around you're already tired of it all.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 6:01:39 GMT
And increases the danger of it being a huge anticlimax
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Post by Anniek on May 24, 2016 8:06:50 GMT
Impossible Burly, Two words: Emma, Watson.
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Post by The Matthew on May 24, 2016 8:22:15 GMT
Also, there used to be a time when we had ONE trailer come up 2-3 months before the start when the marketing campaign started. Now we get teaser trailers and teasers of trailers and whatnot to start the hype months before and by the time the actual movie comes around you're already tired of it all. And sometimes it goes horribly wrong. There's a trailer at the moment that portentously announces "Next Year..." for a film that opens this month. The phrase "did not think that through" comes to mind.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 24, 2016 8:44:12 GMT
I hope they aren't running the risk of not telling audience that this is still a musical. I remember the trailers for the Depp Sweeney Todd and it wasn't clear enough that it involved lots of singing - causing people to get upset when Depp burst into 'song'...
I agree the visuals look pretty decent - but I was very disconcerted by Ewan McGregor's Lumiere accent. Just didn't ring true. Fingers crossed the rest of his performance helps mask that.
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 24, 2016 8:50:15 GMT
I saw an interview today that mentioned Lily Frazer, currently in the cast of In The Heights, is going to be in this film.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 9:07:42 GMT
I was very disconcerted by Ewan McGregor's Lumiere accent. Just didn't ring true. It's a talking candle....
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Post by Baemax on May 24, 2016 9:13:50 GMT
I hope they aren't running the risk of not telling audience that this is still a musical. I remember the trailers for the Depp Sweeney Todd and it wasn't clear enough that it involved lots of singing - causing people to get upset when Depp burst into 'song'... I'm pretty sure people are fully aware that Disney's Beauty and the Beast is full of songs. From all the fuss being made about this teaser arriving, I was expecting to see maybe a wee bit more than we actually did. Wake me up when a proper trailer drops.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 9:30:40 GMT
Ewan McGregor is AWFUL! And he only has a line!! Can't wait for him to retire and let some posh kids have a go
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Post by Dave25 on May 24, 2016 9:45:25 GMT
causing people to get upset when Depp burst into 'song'... I agree the visuals look pretty decent - but I was very disconcerted by Ewan McGregor's Lumiere accent. Just didn't ring true. Fingers crossed the rest of his performance helps mask that. I agree, it does not ring true. It feels forced and unnatural. The same goes for singing in a musical film, as long as it does not feel completely natural, like real singing, it does not feel truthful either (Les Mis, speaking 4 words and use vibrato on the5th). Truthful with this material lies in embracing the language of singing. Going all the way.
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Post by Dave25 on May 24, 2016 9:49:38 GMT
I was very disconcerted by Ewan McGregor's Lumiere accent. Just didn't ring true. It's a talking candle.... So therefore extra important that the voice rings true to make the material actually work.
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Post by David J on May 24, 2016 11:15:33 GMT
I'm not liking the extra notes added to the opening music. I hope that's just for the trailer. It's as if they're adding different notes for the sake of being different.
I agree that they should have added the Broadway songs (absolutely love If I Can't Love Her), but what can you do.
Ewan McGregor's accent is off putting, but Ian McKellan is just reminding me of Gandalf rather than Cogsworth.
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Post by Jon on May 24, 2016 11:41:56 GMT
Lots more post-production and CGI fuss these days I'd think. Also, there used to be a time when we had ONE trailer come up 2-3 months before the start when the marketing campaign started. Now we get teaser trailers and teasers of trailers and whatnot to start the hype months before and by the time the actual movie comes around you're already tired of it all. Scheduling is another factor as Disney had a full slate in 2016 and Spring is usually a good time to release films as evident with Cinderella, Jungle Book, Zootropolis etc
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Post by steve10086 on May 24, 2016 11:46:48 GMT
BatB is by far my favourite Disney movie (it was embarrassing how emotional I found dining in the Beast's ballroom at Disney World!), and I'm sure there will be many things about this new film I would have done differently, or perhaps won't like.
But the new film doesn't change the original, and I am very excited to see another version. I'm wondering if some people should just skip the new film if they are already picking holes in the teaser trailer...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 24, 2016 11:59:14 GMT
It's a talking candle.... So therefore extra important that the voice rings true to make the material actually work. Let's just hope that Emma Thompson has found the truth in her teapot then!
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Post by d'James on May 24, 2016 12:23:10 GMT
I hope they aren't running the risk of not telling audience that this is still a musical. I remember the trailers for the Depp Sweeney Todd and it wasn't clear enough that it involved lots of singing - causing people to get upset when Depp burst into 'song'... I agree the visuals look pretty decent - but I was very disconcerted by Ewan McGregor's Lumiere accent. Just didn't ring true. Fingers crossed the rest of his performance helps mask that. Yes I thought that too about Ewan. I really didn't like his singing in Moulin Rouge so am really wary of him in this. Lumiere can be such a massive let down when the singing's not up to scratch. Cogsworth doesn't matter if he can't sing too well.
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Post by Baemax on May 24, 2016 13:04:48 GMT
Has anyone thought that Ewan McGregor's French accent is more likely to be a product of being his being married to a Frenchwoman in real life than the original's "quick, Jerry, you're a cartoon candlestick, and we want NO DOUBT IN ANY OF OUR AUDIENCE'S MINDS that you're French"?
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Post by d'James on May 24, 2016 13:22:07 GMT
Has anyone thought that Ewan McGregor's French accent is more likely to be a product of being his being married to a Frenchwoman in real life than the original's "quick, Jerry, you're a cartoon candlestick, and we want NO DOUBT IN ANY OF OUR AUDIENCE'S MINDS that you're French"? I'm certainly not saying that he should do the accent like that, I just didn't like the sound of it in the trailer. We'll see what it's like when we hear more of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 13:24:09 GMT
I really think we're all avoiding the glaring omission in the trailer.
Luke Evans as Gaston.
And the key question.
Does the shirt come off?
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Post by anthony40 on Aug 28, 2016 17:13:15 GMT
Two pics released on Titter- the first is a shot in a haven from Gaston and the second is a showing concept art of the showy French candelabra Lumiere and his ally Cogsworth. Having seen Zootroplolis and the recent Jungle Book and Pete's Dragon remakes, all of which were excellent, I've no doubt this too will be amazing. However don't get too excited from these shots alone. You'll see what I mean. variety.com/2016/film/news/beauty-and-the-beast-cogsworth-lumiere-first-look-disney-1201845984/And if you scroll down you'll see an image of Dan Stevens, with locks (as per the polar cartoon image) after the Beast transforms into the Prince. twitter.com/Beauty_BeastFR
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Post by Jon on Aug 28, 2016 17:47:39 GMT
I'm assuming Lumiere's face is in the candleholder rather than the candle itself as I can't really make it out unlike Cogsworth
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Post by theatremadhatter on Aug 29, 2016 9:56:51 GMT
Nice to see Luke Evans returning to his Musical roots I saw him as cover Trekkie monster in Avenue Q years ago and he was the only decent thing in Rent Remixed!
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 2, 2016 18:53:25 GMT
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Post by daniel on Nov 2, 2016 19:06:48 GMT
Hearing rumours that the stage show may be making a return to the UK in 2017...nothing confirmed, as always, but watch this space.
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Post by ali973 on Nov 2, 2016 19:07:05 GMT
Disagree. Nothing is "real" in any of these shots, especially the Beast. If we're not seeing real flesh and humans then we might as well just watch the animated movie.
Why even hire an actor to do his scenes if it's all going to be (badly done) CGI? I literally stopped watching supernatural films because of the excessive (and exclusive) use of CGI. What is even more frustrating about CGI is that after all these years, almost two decades of using it, is that it's still not that good. It's a computer and you can always tell.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 19:56:15 GMT
Hearing rumours that the stage show may be making a return to the UK in 2017...nothing confirmed, as always, but watch this space. Would make good commercial sense with the film being released
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Post by The Matthew on Nov 2, 2016 19:58:51 GMT
Why even hire an actor to do his scenes if it's all going to be (badly done) CGI? I literally stopped watching supernatural films because of the excessive (and exclusive) use of CGI. What is even more frustrating about CGI is that after all these years, almost two decades of using it, is that it's still not that good. It's a computer and you can always tell. I hate CGI in live action films. I love it in pure animation. The ability of computers to allow arbitrarily small changes to be made to a scene has given the animators so much more freedom than was possible in the days of painted cels and it's done wonders for the delicacy with which emotions can be portrayed and the realism that can be brought to motion. CGI rendering in particular has made animation much more theatrical: instead of having the animator draw everything the process of production is separated out with the animators taking the role of the actors while the set design and dressing, the costumes and the lighting are provided by others. It brings an order of magnitude more creativity to the process. But live action should be live action, with practical effects wherever possible. Doing partial live action and then bailing out and animating the rest because doing it in front of the camera would be hard is a real cop-out. I can accept that some things can't be done for real, but often it seems as though once the decision has been made to add CGI enhancements to a live action scene they really go for it and CGI the hell out of everything just because they can. It's like giving glue and glitter to a five year old. The results are not going to be pretty.
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