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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 25, 2021 17:33:38 GMT
It’s like a nervous tick, done without awareness. Seriously, everyone uses ‘filler’ word when they speak. Everyone! You just don’t realise you are doing it unless you record yourself in conversation and listen back. And ‘like’ often does add semantic meaning - indicating approximation or paraphrasing (‘she was like, OMG!’ Does not mean that ‘she’ literally said ‘OMG!’, it means she expressed a similar sentiment/ has a shocked reaction). Fixating on ‘like’ to become annoyed by is more about the listener than the speaker.I disagree. I DO agree that we all have filler words (mine is “Umm” and I know that because I’ve heard recordings of my presentations at work ) but most people use them in a way that doesn’t interfere with the message. Some people use fillers to the point that it distracts from what they’re trying to say because all the listener hears is THAT WORD. This is like, erm a problem for the speaker because umm like they’re ummm, like... not going to be ...like..understood or even erm... heard!
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Post by kathryn on May 25, 2021 19:41:20 GMT
‘Uhm’ is just as annoying as ‘like’ if you focus on it instead of the semantic content around it. People fixate on ‘like’ because of the age and - often - gender of the people who normally use it. The type of vocal tics and fillers that are part of your own peer groups’ communication style will typically not even register.
Although having said that, extreme overuse of any type of filler words is incredibly annoying, of course. I once sat next to and trained a colleague who started every question with a string of ‘erm...so the thing is...erm....uhm...so ...erm...’ for about 15 seconds before she actually got to the question she wanted to ask. And she asked many questions a day, to start with. In an open plan office, surrounded by desks. It drove people up the wall!
I actually got used to it and learned to tune out her preamble so I was only really listening when she got to the actual question - it was very weird to realise that I’d trained myself out of getting annoyed by what really was objectively a very annoying behaviour.
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Post by kathryn on May 25, 2021 19:53:27 GMT
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Post by robertb213 on May 25, 2021 20:36:53 GMT
Prime example... this isn't anything to do with nervousness, it's just an annoying habit!!
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Post by olliebean on May 25, 2021 23:47:44 GMT
People saying "tenant" when they mean "tenet." I'm pretty sure the error is more common than the correct usage, even amongst ostensibly educated and intelligent speakers.
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Post by nick on May 26, 2021 7:16:51 GMT
What's with this trend for TV presenters to do a piece to camera by not doing a piece to camera? I've been enjoying Saved by a Stranger on BBC2, but Anita Rani is always talking to someone in the distance who we never see. Just look straight down the lense! You see the opposite happen a lot on the news when the reporter talks directly to the camera while taking no notice of the thing they’re supposed to be reporting on, which is still unfolding behind them. This reminds me how much I dislike reporters being sent somewhere to just stand and talk. Why bother? It rarely adds to their report. It became especially irritating during the pandemic. "Look the streets are empty because of lockdown" - yes EXCEPT FOR YOU!!!!
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Post by sfsusan on May 26, 2021 19:49:58 GMT
It became especially irritating during the pandemic. "Look the streets are empty because of lockdown" - yes EXCEPT FOR YOU!!!! ... and all the other reporters just out of camera range doing the exact same thing.
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Post by TallPaul on May 29, 2021 9:55:43 GMT
In the grand scheme of things it's nothing, but I have an irrational dislike of utensil jars that have 'Utensils' across the front. If it's in the kitchen, and it's full of utensils, it's bleedin' obvious what it is!
I think it's all the fault of my sister-in-law, with her fully co-ordinated Eternal Beau kitchen.
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Post by nick on May 29, 2021 13:19:03 GMT
I might be in the minority here....
Pictures on T Shirts.
I have no time for band logos, tour lists, butterflies etc etc on T shirts.
Plain or patterned only please.
There's no aesthetic reason. It's only done to show off and not because it looks good.
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Post by The Matthew on May 29, 2021 14:45:28 GMT
I have no time for band logos "They're a really obscure band. You probably haven't heard of them. 'Cause they're crap."
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Post by Dawnstar on May 29, 2021 18:07:22 GMT
I might be in the minority here.... Pictures on T Shirts. I have no time for band logos, tour lists, butterflies etc etc on T shirts. Plain or patterned only please. There's no aesthetic reason. It's only done to show off and not because it looks good.
I don't care what other people choose to have on their T-shirts, unless it's obscene or offensive, but personally I only wear plain ones & have done since I got to adulthood. I'm not very keen on patterned fabrics either, apart from the occasional floral-patterned dress. The majority of my clothes are plain fabrics. I remember M&S going through an infuriating phase about a decade ago where something looked a nice colour from a distance then when you took it off the rack it had bits of patterned fabric added as ruffles or inserts.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 29, 2021 18:32:21 GMT
Agree. Logo tee shirts after “a certain age” is naff AF. You can decide yourself what that age should be... I’d err on the side of caution.
A few years ago there was a trend in men’s fashion for three quarter shorts. Awful. No one over the age of 6 ever looked good in shorts hitting the mid calf yet men of all ages were desperately trying to get away with them and failing.
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Post by duncan on May 29, 2021 19:03:55 GMT
Ooh, people over the age of 10 wearing football shirts when not at a game of football.
I really do not need to see a Hibs strip on the Las Vegas strip (which I actually did see). Its an odd sort of thing to want to wear for normal every day clothing and if you are a grown adult it just makes me want to cross the road to avoid you.
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Post by peggs on May 29, 2021 19:18:43 GMT
Going to wear a jumper if I ever meet any of you lot
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Post by nick on May 29, 2021 19:56:40 GMT
Hmm. Lots of agreement with my last one.
So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It's like walking into a building and seeing a board starting with architect and finishing with the bricklayers. Why? You may need your name connected to a production for professional reasons but these days IMDB works fine.
Also I don't buy programmes any more. I have been known to take a photo of the cast board if there is one. Even so a Google usually brings up the cast for most shows I goo and see.
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Post by robertb213 on May 29, 2021 20:54:49 GMT
Skinny jeans! All men need to stop wearing them, they look awful on literally everyone.
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Post by marob on May 29, 2021 21:21:11 GMT
Skinny jeans! All men need to stop wearing them, they look awful on literally everyone. A guy I used to work with looked stunning in them. But yes, they really don’t suit the vast majority of men.
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Post by nick on May 30, 2021 8:13:25 GMT
Skinny jeans! All men need to stop wearing them, they look awful on literally everyone. Not all men. My son is so skinny anything other than skinny jeans just looks like a bad fit. He’s also got very long legs and really struggles to find trousers to fit (he does look very gorgeous though).
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Post by richey on May 30, 2021 8:21:10 GMT
Hmm. Lots of agreement with my last one. So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It. whilst I agree to an extent, I do get annoyed when they start talking over credits and shrinking the screen to promote what's coming next. Sometimes I at least want to see who's in the cast but never get the chance.
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Post by danb on May 30, 2021 8:53:00 GMT
Skinny jeans! All men need to stop wearing them, they look awful on literally everyone. I’m afraid I only discovered how magnificent my calves look in them a few years ago so I’m not letting go any time soon.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 30, 2021 8:58:36 GMT
Ooh, people over the age of 10 wearing football shirts Corrected it for you
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Post by nick on May 30, 2021 9:40:41 GMT
Hmm. Lots of agreement with my last one. So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It. whilst I agree to an extent, I do get annoyed when they start talking over credits and shrinking the screen to promote what's coming next. Sometimes I at least want to see who's in the cast but never get the chance. I watch a lot of vintage tv and many programmes in the 60s had the cast and then a similar amount of others. Seemed about right. Films are just taking the mickey. Totally agree about shrinking - if they’re going to show them then we must be able to read them otherwise it’s totally a waste of time.
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Post by The Matthew on May 30, 2021 10:18:54 GMT
So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It's like walking into a building and seeing a board starting with architect and finishing with the bricklayers. Why? You may need your name connected to a production for professional reasons but these days IMDB works fine. I agree. It's incredibly stupid. I would bet money that apart from the people who create the credits there is not one single person who has ever read and taken in all the information in a ten-minute credit roll. Nobody has ever landed a job by having someone say "Ah yes, I remember seeing your name among the hundreds at the end of that film I saw eight years ago". It's entirely pointless.
Also wasteful. Over the course of a year all those useless credits add up to a significant amount of extra wear and tear on the projector: around ten days of cumulative extra stress on equipment that's already running at the limit of what can be achieved.
On the other hand, if you're going to credit everyone down to the receptionist and the person who maintains the office PCs then why omit the musicians? I'm sure there's some contractual reason behind it, but it's never made much sense to me that someone who spawns during the production gets the offspring mentioned in their own special section but the talent who actually made an essential contribution get nothing.
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Post by CG on the loose on May 30, 2021 11:16:19 GMT
Skinny jeans! All men need to stop wearing them, they look awful on literally everyone. Now reportedly banned in North Korea, along with mullets and certain bodypiercings, as symbols of a “capitalistic lifestyle”...
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Post by Dawnstar on May 30, 2021 12:29:09 GMT
Hmm. Lots of agreement with my last one. So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It. whilst I agree to an extent, I do get annoyed when they start talking over credits and shrinking the screen to promote what's coming next. Sometimes I at least want to see who's in the cast but never get the chance. I agree with this. If you're going to have a long list of credits then have them at a size & scrolling speed that means they are legible, including large enough for those of us who don't have 50 inch TV screens to be able to read! Otherwise it's a complete waste.
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Post by kathryn on May 30, 2021 13:09:45 GMT
So how about end credits on films and TV. At the very least there's too many people credited. Does anyone really need to see who the electrician or the catering were? It's like walking into a building and seeing a board starting with architect and finishing with the bricklayers. Why? You may need your name connected to a production for professional reasons but these days IMDB works fine. I agree. It's incredibly stupid. I would bet money that apart from the people who create the credits there is not one single person who has ever read and taken in all the information in a ten-minute credit roll. Nobody has ever landed a job by having someone say "Ah yes, I remember seeing your name among the hundreds at the end of that film I saw eight years ago". It's entirely pointless.
Also wasteful. Over the course of a year all those useless credits add up to a significant amount of extra wear and tear on the projector: around ten days of cumulative extra stress on equipment that's already running at the limit of what can be achieved.
On the other hand, if you're going to credit everyone down to the receptionist and the person who maintains the office PCs then why omit the musicians? I'm sure there's some contractual reason behind it, but it's never made much sense to me that someone who spawns during the production gets the offspring mentioned in their own special section but the talent who actually made an essential contribution get nothing.
Good article about who gets left out of credits here: www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/movies/why-end-credits-in-movies-are-so-long.html
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Post by dippy on May 30, 2021 16:29:46 GMT
I love watching credits but that's because if I'm watching a big film that was made in this country in the last 20/30 years chances are there'll be someone I know or know of in the credits, so I'm always looking for familiar names. Of course that's completely uninteresting to most people though so I can understand people's frustrations. However I do think it's good for people to see just how many people do work on the production of a large film and it's nice to be in the credits. I can understand the thoughts about shortened credits and only having key people there, but then who gets to be credited and who doesn't. I'd love to say the fairest way is that absolutely everyone should be credited but then that will never be the case as people can maybe only work on it for a few days, and loads of people aren't credited anyway.
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Post by alece10 on May 30, 2021 17:54:58 GMT
You know when you buy something off Amazon you get a thing at the end that says "customers who bought this also bought...." Well I've just bought an ice pack for my knee and apparently people who buy them also buy ceramic egg cups!! Who'd have thought it.
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Post by nick on May 30, 2021 20:13:58 GMT
I love watching credits but that's because if I'm watching a big film that was made in this country in the last 20/30 years chances are there'll be someone I know or know of in the credits, so I'm always looking for familiar names. Of course that's completely uninteresting to most people though so I can understand people's frustrations. However I do think it's good for people to see just how many people do work on the production of a large film and it's nice to be in the credits. I can understand the thoughts about shortened credits and only having key people there, but then who gets to be credited and who doesn't. I'd love to say the fairest way is that absolutely everyone should be credited but then that will never be the case as people can maybe only work on it for a few days, and loads of people aren't credited anyway. I can see it would be nice. But no other industry insists on credits. Why don't we have a list of those involved in making a book. Or a loaf of bread.
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Post by dippy on May 30, 2021 22:19:02 GMT
I can see it would be nice. But no other industry insists on credits. Why don't we have a list of those involved in making a book. Or a loaf of bread. That is very true, I'd actually find that quite interesting too!
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