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Post by theatreian on Apr 9, 2021 11:34:00 GMT
Sad to hear Prince Philip has died just 2 months short of his 100th Birthday. It will be such a blow to the queen and whatever your view of the royal family you can't deny what a life of service he has had.
In a statement Buckingham Palace said: "It is with deep sorrow that Her Majesty The Queen announces the death of her beloved husband, His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh.
"His Royal Highness passed away peacefully this morning at Windsor Castle. Further announcements will made in due course.
"The Royal Family join with people around the world in mourning his loss."
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 9, 2021 12:33:21 GMT
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Post by NeilVHughes on Apr 9, 2021 12:41:15 GMT
A sad day for the Queen, cannot comprehend how difficult it would be to lose someone you have been with for over 70 years.
Being not particularly bothered about the Royal Family and therefore feelings tinged with the faux outpourings of grief and domination of the news cycles we will be bombarded with for the next few weeks.
The beginning of the end of the Elizabethan era, the only constant throughout my whole life, do I care? not sure as the Queen and Prince Philip are something that has always been part of life in Britain like the weather and Coronation Street.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 9, 2021 13:24:03 GMT
So was it all Megan's fault?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 9, 2021 13:34:36 GMT
So was it all Megan's fault? Some people have already started pointing the finger
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Post by alece10 on Apr 9, 2021 14:17:42 GMT
Let's just reflect on the sadness of his passing and leave the rumours and figure pointing for another day.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 9, 2021 14:30:32 GMT
I am not a Royalist at all. What I take from this, they were deeply in love, they were devoted to each other and a family have lost their father, grandfather and great grandfather too. Very sad.
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 9, 2021 14:36:51 GMT
I am not a Royalist at all. What I take from this, they were deeply in love, they were devoted to each other and a family have lost their father, grandfather and great grandfather too. Very sad. But as he was 99 he won’t be getting a letter from the Wife. Not really sad at all, he used his position and the royal family as a shield to be nasty, grievous and obnoxious. On another note, when he was younger Queen insisted he wore a belt, as he had big problems keeping his trousers up
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Post by southstreet on Apr 9, 2021 14:54:25 GMT
I honestly don't care about the royals but it's always sad when someone dies and I can imagine it being really hard for anyone losing a spouse after 70+ years of marriage.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 9, 2021 16:40:57 GMT
I am not a Royalist at all. What I take from this, they were deeply in love, they were devoted to each other and a family have lost their father, grandfather and great grandfather too. Very sad. But as he was 99 he won’t be getting a letter from the Wife. Not really sad at all, he used his position and the royal family as a shield to be nasty, grievous and obnoxious. On another note, when he was younger Queen insisted he wore a belt, as he had big problems keeping his trousers up I don't understand your point about the letter or the belt? Well I think it's sad. A family has lost someone they loved.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 9, 2021 18:55:48 GMT
I am not a Royalist at all. What I take from this, they were deeply in love, they were devoted to each other and a family have lost their father, grandfather and great grandfather too. Very sad. But as he was 99 he won’t be getting a letter from the Wife. Not really sad at all, he used his position and the royal family as a shield to be nasty, grievous and obnoxious. On another note, when he was younger Queen insisted he wore a belt, as he had big problems keeping his trousers up What a vile thing to say about someone who had died today. Shame on you. PoL.
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Post by theatreian on Apr 9, 2021 21:31:16 GMT
Having just watched the ITV programme with Philip Scholfield and Julie Etchingham it gave a really well rounded view of what he actually achieved and the type of man he was. I have a real respect for the way he devoted his life to service and over 800 charities. Most things not ever being seen or heard about. Mostly today sympathy is with the Queen who must be devastated as a 75 year old love story is at an end.
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Post by cjamess on Apr 9, 2021 23:43:39 GMT
Upon reading today it does seem very odd the two began courting when she was only 13 whilst he was 18, suppose that's a good role model for Andrew!
Joking aside all sympathies are with QE, she's lost a husband and cousin all in one today.
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 10, 2021 10:39:43 GMT
Being still so fresh in my memory, it feels more recent, but I've checked the date and it was in November 2010 that I was able to watch Prince Philip 'at work' from close quarters.
After travelling to Sheffield overnight on the Royal Train, he accompanied The Queen to the official opening of our MND research centre, followed by a couple more engagements in the city, then luncheon at the University.
While they ate inside, waiting outside were thousands, and I really do mean thousands, of students; not because they had to there, but because they wanted to be there. Anyway, the time eventually arrived, mid-afternoon, for The Queen and Prince Philip to leave for their final engagement of the day.
While The Queen was doing the formal things that monarchs have to do, Prince Philip decided to go on an impromptu walkabout, starting with one of the police officers on guard duty. "Are this lot behaving themselves?" he jokingly asked. "Yes, Sir. No trouble at all." Then he started bantering with the crowd. "Shouldn't you be in lectures?" "Do you do ANY work?" From what I saw, he completely charmed all the young people he spoke to, despite being 70 years their senior.
Legend.
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Post by jojo on Apr 10, 2021 12:57:48 GMT
Upon reading today it does seem very odd the two began courting when she was only 13 whilst he was 18, suppose that's a good role model for Andrew! Joking aside all sympathies are with QE, she's lost a husband and cousin all in one today. I don't think there's any serious suggestion there was any romantic connection at that age. It's just when they first met, or at least were at the same event. It's more a reflection on their shared social circle (and having a few relatives in common). Though seeing photos of him in his youth I totally get why the young Princess Elizabeth had the hots for him. I wouldn't consider myself a royalist, but I am a pragmatist, and can see the value they bring to the country and I particularly appreciate that the PM of the day has to defer to her. It helps to keep them in their place, which has been more useful with some PMs than others ... Very few of us will have met Philip, and fewer still would have known him, but for most of us he has been around all of our lives, and it's very human to feel sad about his death, and in many cases we'll relate it to a personal bereavement, or be thinking of how we'd feel if we lost a spouse or parent or grandparent. I have no time for those who see this as an opportunity to sneer. I don't expect universal sycophancy, but IMO it's not about respecting him or even the Queen. It's respecting everyone who is reminded of their own grief. I'm interested in history, so I'm finding the coverage of his life is fascinating. There were some bits I knew, but plenty of remarkable stuff I was unaware of, or at least never given much thought to. Even the stuff that should have been obvious, such as how he was one of the last remaining WW2 veterans, never mind the stories about how his family had to flee Greece. While it's fair to say that overall his life has been privileged, his family was ripped apart, he was a refugee for a period of time and when he was first associated with the Queen, there were apparently racist comments about him from various 'courtiers' and parts of the media. I could do with less (no) Nicholas Witchell, but I have enjoyed the interviews with historians and people involved with the Duke of Edinburgh awards and so on.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Apr 10, 2021 14:10:59 GMT
Being still so fresh in my memory, it feels more recent, but I've checked the date and it was in November 2010 that I was able to watch Prince Philip 'at work' from close quarters. After travelling to Sheffield overnight on the Royal Train, he accompanied The Queen to the official opening of our MND research centre, followed by a couple more engagements in the city, then luncheon at the University. While they ate inside, waiting outside were thousands, and I really do mean thousands, of students; not because they had to there, but because they wanted to be there. Anyway, the time eventually arrived, mid-afternoon, for The Queen and Prince Philip to leave for their final engagement of the day. While The Queen was doing the formal things that monarchs have to do, Prince Philip decided to go on an impromptu walkabout, starting with one of the police officers on guard duty. "Are this lot behaving themselves?" he jokingly asked. "Yes, Sir. No trouble at all." Then he started bantering with the crowd. "Shouldn't you be in lectures?" "Do you do ANY work?" From what I saw, he completely charmed all the young people he spoke to, despite being 70 years their senior. Legend. Whilst I haven't experienced an interaction with him - my postie said he used to be in the military and met Prince Philip twice - was very dry humoured and charming.
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Post by karloscar on Apr 11, 2021 11:11:11 GMT
So Boris has generously decided not to attend the funeral to allow more family members to attend. Or rather the message from Buck House stated "Stay the f*** away till you get a decent haircut you Muppet! love Betty Windsor. "
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Post by anthony40 on Apr 17, 2021 14:26:29 GMT
Watching the ceremony now. Really rather moving.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Apr 17, 2021 15:27:50 GMT
I teared up when they showed his cap and gloves on his carriage. That was a really personal moment.
Most of the music was stunning. The Britten and the Lovelady were real highlights.
It was all brilliantly staged and choreographed. As a country, we do major events with great dignity.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 17, 2021 15:43:55 GMT
I found the procession beforehand more moving than the actual funeral service. Between Nimrod, Jerusalem, Abide With Me, etc. I got through several hankies.
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Post by theatreian on Apr 17, 2021 16:26:41 GMT
Yes it was very moving and so well done. The beautiful weather and setting made it such a fitting memorial. The scenes of the Queen head bowed in the chapel were very moving. At least it seemed William and Harry were talking again on the walk back up to the castle afterwards. The British do put on an event such as this with such dignity and precision. Apparently the Duke himself amended the order of service several times recenly to take into account the pandemic and those circumstances. It really was a fitting tribute.
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Post by peggs on Apr 17, 2021 17:05:39 GMT
I feel it was rather nice they could do it without all the fanfair and people that would have compulosry were it not for the pandemic. Of course a few more people would have been nice, the Queen sitting all alone was very sad but I'm sure they were happier without all the politians etc that would have been there in different times. Stripped back it was very moving and poignant.
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Post by Mark on Apr 17, 2021 20:35:34 GMT
The images of Her Majesty The Queen circulating of her sat alone, highlight how cruel and insensitive the covid rules are to those grieving the loss of a loved one. She has followed the rules with extreme dignity because god knows if one foot had been placed wrong then the social distancing fanatics would have been all over it. What a horrible time to have to live in the public eye where your every move is scrutinised.
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Post by karloscar on Apr 18, 2021 11:30:04 GMT
They timed it nicely to get the sun casting shadows from behind the band onto the grass to form little rhombus shapes. Oh, and Nicholas Witchell is now the most hated snivelling creep in the whole world. Congrats!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 18, 2021 13:07:12 GMT
They timed it nicely to get the sun casting shadows from behind the band onto the grass to form little rhombus shapes. Oh, and Nicholas Witchell is now the most hated snivelling creep in the whole world. Congrats! Why? Didn't watch it
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Post by karloscar on Apr 18, 2021 16:20:35 GMT
They timed it nicely to get the sun casting shadows from behind the band onto the grass to form little rhombus shapes. Oh, and Nicholas Witchell is now the most hated snivelling creep in the whole world. Congrats! Why? Didn't watch it Just his hideous presence and his claims to have exclusive insight into what various royals are thinking. People were demanding the BBC set up a complaints line just for him!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 18, 2021 19:37:21 GMT
Huw Edwards did the BBC coverage. I was watching the beeb and never saw Nicholas Witchell? What was he doing?
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Post by poster J on Apr 18, 2021 21:15:56 GMT
Huw Edwards did the BBC coverage. I was watching the beeb and never saw Nicholas Witchell? What was he doing? He appears to have been designated the BBC's body language expert for the small part of their coverage that descended to Daily Fail levels of banality.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Apr 19, 2021 8:54:45 GMT
Huw Edwards did the BBC coverage. I was watching the beeb and never saw Nicholas Witchell? What was he doing? He appears to have been designated the BBC's body language expert for the small part of their coverage that descended to Daily Fail levels of banality. I searched after Karloscar's post to try to find out what Witchell did. I wasn't going down any Facebook rabbit holes and my computer has a block against the Daily Mail and Express sites so couldn't click on those. Apart from the above only link I could find was Nick Knowles complaining about comments he made about William and Harry's body language. That the that bit got everyone up in arms? For balance I did find a link to the Morning Star complaining about Witchell fawning over the Royal Family
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Post by lynette on Apr 19, 2021 18:39:55 GMT
Was so weird. Huw Edwards saying that ~Meghan, Duchess etc wasn’t there because not cleared to come. She is pregnant ffs and late on so can’t or shouldn’t fly. Also he was talking about her as if she couldn’t hear him while saying that she is probably watching. Could he not for once have said something along the lines that we are sure she would have wanted to be here and we are sorry she can’t be but appreciate the reason and look forward to a happier event...imo he should have shut up for most of the time and allowed us to experience the silence and the atmosphere. He wittered on and on. I turned off the sound for a while but thank goodness he shut up for inside the church. The filming, the camera angles etc were pretty good, the filming of the piper was worthy of an Oscar, but they cant get the commentary right at these events, can they?
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