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Post by shownut on May 19, 2023 16:18:06 GMT
One would think they would have announced a theatre/next move by now. We know they recorded promo tracks in December but total silence (mostly) since then with Katie Brayben saying after her Olivier win that something would be happening.
Just seems oddly quiet for a show meant to have had a transfer in mind.
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Post by intoanewlife on May 19, 2023 16:20:20 GMT
Hopefully it's being re-written and turned into the great show it deserves to be...
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Post by Being Alive on May 19, 2023 16:39:32 GMT
Katie is incredibly pregnant (in fact she's probably had the baby by now!) and the entire show is her - it's nothing without her - so I figure they're taking their time, she's having her child, and then they will do the work needed and get it ready.
This won't be a thing til next year at the earliest
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Post by intoanewlife on May 19, 2023 16:43:27 GMT
Jake has a new album out next month and then a tour so I doubt much is getting done on it atm.
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Post by shownut on Jun 12, 2023 13:05:57 GMT
In an interview with Jake Shears (Tammy Faye lyricist) that was posted last week on a few online sites, including The Cheyenne Post, it appears the show is finally moving into its next phase:
Although 'Tammy Faye' wrapped up in December 2022, the 'Take Your Mama' hitmaker suggested there are still some big plans afoot.
He teased: "I think 'Tammy Faye' is going to go on to have a good life, hopefully, knock on wood. It's going to go in its next iteration. I can't really say any details. We got a couple of Oliviers for it."
Sounds like they are wisely giving it a revision before it's next mounting, just not sure where that will be.
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 12, 2023 14:06:44 GMT
If they take a proper thorough look at Act 2, this has the potential to be massive.
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Post by shownut on Jun 12, 2023 15:10:45 GMT
If they take a proper thorough look at Act 2, this has the potential to be massive. Agreed. I think that is why I am slightly obsessed with this piece. It was a good show despite its flaws with potential to become a great one. Curious if same creative team will remain intact as it changes.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 12, 2023 15:12:04 GMT
If they take a proper thorough look at Act 2, this has the potential to be massive. The first Act could come down by 10 minutes too. The whole 'villain' aspect needs some thorough discussion and sorting out and Tammy needs more stage time and a proper farewell song (You Won't See Me Cry would be a magnificent closer with a small amount of rewriting) in Act 2. Personally I would cut Jan Crouch completely as no one here knows who the woman is, but obviously she'd have to go back in if it ever transferred to the US where she is more well known.
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Post by shownut on Jun 12, 2023 16:28:14 GMT
If they take a proper thorough look at Act 2, this has the potential to be massive. The first Act could come down by 10 minutes too. The whole 'villain' aspect needs some thorough discussion and sorting out and Tammy needs more stage time and a proper farewell song (You Won't See Me Cry would be a magnificent closer with a small amount of rewriting) in Act 2. Personally I would cut Jan Crouch completely as no one here knows who the woman is, but obviously she'd have to go back in if it ever transferred to the US where she is more well known. Totally agree about the Jan Crouch character. She was a minor character and has way too much stage time. What time that character loses onstage should go the character of Jessica Hahn who played a huge role in the downfall of Jim and Tammy's ministry. In fact, Jessica became as much a household name in America as Jim and Tammy Bakker (and like the Bakkers, was often satirised on SNL). At the Almeida, she goes as quickly as she appears. Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. And yes, Jan was better known in the US but not until sometime after Tammy Faye had left PTL (even though they were both there at the beginning). They could lose her altogether and lose nothing.
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Post by intoanewlife on Jun 12, 2023 16:37:20 GMT
The first Act could come down by 10 minutes too. The whole 'villain' aspect needs some thorough discussion and sorting out and Tammy needs more stage time and a proper farewell song (You Won't See Me Cry would be a magnificent closer with a small amount of rewriting) in Act 2. Personally I would cut Jan Crouch completely as no one here knows who the woman is, but obviously she'd have to go back in if it ever transferred to the US where she is more well known. Totally agree about the Jan Crouch character. She was a minor character and has way too much stage time. What time that character loses onstage should go the character of Jessica Hahn who played a huge role in the downfall of Jim and Tammy's ministry. In fact, Jessica became as much a household name in America as Jim and Tammy Bakker (and like the Bakkers, was often satirised on SNL). At the Almeida, she goes as quickly as she appears. Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. And yes, Jan was better known in the US but not until sometime after Tammy Faye had left PTL (even though they were both there at the beginning). They could lose her altogether and lose nothing. Agree totally x
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Post by nottobe on Jun 22, 2023 14:19:18 GMT
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Post by Jon on Jun 22, 2023 14:23:05 GMT
I don't think it was ever likely for the Autumn just because it would have been announced by now if it was.
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Jun 22, 2023 15:18:01 GMT
Given this is a limited season and ends next January it could mean a run next spring in the west end
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Post by shownut on Jun 22, 2023 15:33:32 GMT
Given this is a limited season and ends next January it could mean a run next spring in the west end All we can really go by at this point was an interview two weeks ago with their lyricist, Jake Shears who said "'Tammy Faye' is going to go on to have a good life, hopefully, knock on wood. It's going to go in its next iteration. I can't really say any details." It's promising that something is happening and they still have a holding page for the website - but while I would like to see a West End transfer, there were a number of Broadway investors seeing the Almeida production so ya just never know where its next 'iteration' might be.....
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Post by BVM on Jun 23, 2023 8:11:21 GMT
David Furniture was on Velma Kelly (Beth Rigby) Interviews last night and said that both Tammy Faye and The Devil Wears Prada are planned "soon." I mean could mean anything, but there we are.
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Post by shownut on Jun 23, 2023 9:17:13 GMT
David Furniture was on Velma Kelly (Beth Rigby) Interviews last night and said that both Tammy Faye and The Devil Wears Prada are planned "soon." I mean could mean anything, but there we are. I assume you mean David Furnish. :-) I did hear rumblings a couple of months back that PRADA was looking for a West End theatre. Lets hope Jerry Mitchell can work magic on PRADA like he did with KINKY BOOTS that also had a disastrous Chicago preview but went on to be a pretty decent musical. As for TAMMY FAYE, having just listened to that interview he said moving to "a bigger theatre next year" so will guess that is West End as well (I hope).
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Jun 23, 2023 19:06:22 GMT
Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. I loved the 'preening, pirouetting Billy Graham' I thought he was great. If he was played as dull as the real Billy Graham was, he wouldn't be able to deliver 'Light Of The World' in the way that it needs. Also, BG is at the start of the show and Tammy Faye has barely started her story, so I don't see how he drags her down. Jan and Paul on the other hand, need to be dialed down by 95% or cut completely, along with their awful song in Act 2.
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Post by shownut on Jun 24, 2023 8:40:51 GMT
Jan's inclusion also means too many 'kooks' spoil the broth. At the Almeida, every character was dialed up to 11 for broad comedy. We had a southern gothic monster like Jan Crouch, and worse, a preening, pirouetting Billy Graham, which made zero sense and wasn't really funny. Because of so many broad, played-for-laughs characterisations surrounding her, the essence of Tammy's sweet-natured but odd-balled buffoonery, matched with make-up you could see from space, gets lost. She needs to stand out above the rest and I hope the new iteration dials down the secondary character clownery and goes a little more for the heart. Less could be so much more and I look forward to seeing what they do with it next. I loved the 'preening, pirouetting Billy Graham' I thought he was great. If he was played as dull as the real Billy Graham was, he wouldn't be able to deliver 'Light Of The World' in the way that it needs. Also, BG is at the start of the show and Tammy Faye has barely started her story, so I don't see how he drags her down. Jan and Paul on the other hand, need to be dialed down by 95% or cut completely, along with their awful song in Act 2. I still think BG character and the song should have more 'religious fervor' and less camp. If you surround a quirky, campy character like Tammy Faye with a setting where everyone else is either OTT or an oddball, we lose what made her special. The many evangelists springing up around that time from Billy Graham to Jimmy Falwell, Pat Robertson and Jimmy Swaggart all had one thing in common: a serious but slightly jarring persona that made you pay attention even if you didn't care to. That was what made Jim and Tammy such a draw - they broke from that devoutly serious mould and made preaching fun, entertaining, accesible and warm...which made the quite them quite a target as they became more and more successful. Totally agree about Jan and Paul and hope we see less of them in the revised version (and that "Run This Show" goes into the scrap heap).
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Post by jaggedlittlepie on Oct 1, 2023 19:13:09 GMT
Any updates on a transfer?
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 2, 2023 7:58:08 GMT
Any updates on a transfer? No. Absolutely silent.
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Post by westendwhistledown on Oct 2, 2023 8:02:13 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here
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Post by dlevi on Oct 2, 2023 9:20:45 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here That's a dangerous move on their part - the Americans I know who saw it here disliked it intensely, yet most Brits thought it fun. With US democracy currently hanging on by a thread a light-hearted musical about some of those who undermined democracy might not be what the audience over there wants right now.
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Post by shownut on Oct 2, 2023 9:57:09 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here That's a dangerous move on their part - the Americans I know who saw it here disliked it intensely, yet most Brits thought it fun. With US democracy currently hanging on by a thread a light-hearted musical about some of those who undermined democracy might not be what the audience over there wants right now. It is currently listed as 'in development' for Broadway on Theatrical Index so I would imagine that the show your American colleagues hated is not the show that Broadway will see in its next iteration. On a side note, I am from the US and adored it, not because I thought it was perfect but because there was a lot to like and it had great potential. In terms of how Americans might have received the Almeida version, the NYT gave it a very positive/encouraging review. The NY Post was less kind but the less said about that tabloid and the hack currently reveiwing on their behalf, the better. You are correct about US democracy hanging on a thread but I wouldn't try and gauge what Broadway audiences will/will not cling to in today's climate. Yes, the show is about the rise of conservative Christianity and its integration into the GOP/American politics, but the central story is about a woman who rose above all that to embrace EVERYONE including those her fellow 'Christians' would have nothing to do with. Despite the worst of everything happening around her and to her, she always carried on smiling, singing and with a ton of heart and loyalty to her faith....and with make-up you could see from space. Like others here, I look forward to it's next chapter.
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Post by shownut on Nov 1, 2023 7:12:07 GMT
TAMMY FAYE Broadway bound "very soon"?Latest update: Andrew Rannells was on Andy Cohen’s “Watch What Happens” last night and was asked by a caller about working with Elton John and whether TAMMY FAYE would be coming to Broadway. Rannells replied that Elton “was around a lot and worked very hard on the show” and that there was a "big possibility" TAMMY FAYE would be heading to Broadway “very soon”. His demeanour suggested he knew more than he was able to share which was an encouraging sign.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 1, 2023 7:13:19 GMT
FINGERS CROSSED!
Tony Award for Katie Brayben please
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Post by alece10 on Nov 1, 2023 7:47:40 GMT
"Heading to Broadway?" Thats no good. We need it to do a proper London run before we let them have it.
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Post by Rory on Nov 1, 2023 7:58:02 GMT
Heard it’s going to Broadway first. Then we can just pray it comes over here It probably won't end up coming back here. It's the kiss of death for the West End when these things go to the US after the taxpayer subsidised UK run (American Psycho, Groundhog Day).
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 1, 2023 9:19:50 GMT
Sadly it was only ever really a pre-Broadway run at the Almeida
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Post by BVM on Nov 1, 2023 10:08:02 GMT
I completely fail to understand, why when something has been a proven success here, they would want to go to (the comparatively harsher and less forgiving environment of) Broadway.
It was a mistake for Groundhog Day and it’s a mistake for this IMHO.
It’s a majority UK team and there’s an audience for it here.
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Post by capybara on Nov 1, 2023 11:40:48 GMT
That would be a real shame and an unnecessary risk. I was looking forward to seeing it again.
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