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Post by showtoones on Nov 3, 2023 5:49:55 GMT
I’d say having a good voice is not at all trivial IN A MUSICAL! And how often do people with terrible voices win Olivier Awards, get nominated 2 other times, as well as being nominated for a Drama Desk Award and the coveted Tony award, and all for being IN A MUSICAL? Who are you speaking of?
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 3, 2023 10:27:46 GMT
Jenna Russell - who's voice is nice, but not typically what you expect from an Irene Malloy (along with her age) and hence why people are questioning her casting
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Post by ladidah on Nov 3, 2023 10:56:46 GMT
Jenna Russell is very odd casting to me. Not a natural fit at all.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 3, 2023 13:19:01 GMT
I’d have been looking at Laura Pitt Pulford or Celinde Schoenmaker as Irene personally
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Post by mattnyc on Nov 3, 2023 13:24:28 GMT
I’d have been looking at Laura Pitt Pulford or Celinde Schoenmaker as Irene personally Oh, Celinde would be brilliant!!
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Post by TallPaul on Nov 3, 2023 14:04:56 GMT
Professional UK productions of Hello, Dolly! are so few and far between I'm not sure how anyone knows what a typical Irene Malloy should be.
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Post by distantcousin on Nov 3, 2023 14:09:13 GMT
I’m seeing an empty stage, lots of side lighting, some onstage camerrrrras, and, in the the title number, Dolly descending covered in the blood of her fox fur, and the ensemble facing away from her whilst monotoning “Hello”. The lighting will reduce and reduce over the course of the show. The curtain call will be solemn, and Imelda will be refused a bow. Instead, the Ensemble will simply point at her. Dominic Cooke will be arraigned for stealing Lloyd’s vision. Lloyd will have already been arraigned for stealing van Hove’s. 5 stars. Just looked at her website and her work certainly seems very muted and dark. Not typically Dolly LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by distantcousin on Nov 3, 2023 14:11:43 GMT
Maybe Jamie Lloyd will direct this too and have Imelda in only a bra and panties to symbolize Dolly’s vulnerability and Harmonia Gardens will be filled with people bleeding from the eyes and fire all around them to envision the restaurant (and all of its patrons) is in Hell. Haha. Count me in.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 3, 2023 14:14:03 GMT
I’d have been looking at Laura Pitt Pulford or Celinde Schoenmaker as Irene personally Laura's done it before so that's absolutely a vote from me. Louise Dearman would also have been a nice fit.
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Post by Being Alive on Nov 3, 2023 14:14:35 GMT
Professional UK productions of Hello, Dolly! are so few and far between I'm not sure how anyone knows what a typical Irene Malloy should be. looking at the productions of the show that have happened all over the world for the past 60 years would give you a pretty good idea no?
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Post by macksennett on Nov 3, 2023 16:02:13 GMT
What do we think pricing will be like for this? Baz's article suggests it will be high but I don't think the general public will pay £100+ and it's getting hard to justify that myself and I'm a big fan of the show! Lots of us might be waiting in offers nearer the time!
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Post by alece10 on Nov 3, 2023 16:17:29 GMT
What do we think pricing will be like for this? Baz's article suggests it will be high but I don't think the general public will pay £100+ and it's getting hard to justify that myself and I'm a big fan of the show! Lots of us might be waiting in offers nearer the time! I think my stalls ticket at the Adelphi including a vip package was £120 which was top price then. But since theatres reopened prices are much higher so I'm expecting good stalls and dress circle to be in the region of £100+ before any added packages but, as with most shows, there will surely be more affordable tickets.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Nov 3, 2023 16:58:50 GMT
I do wonder what this is gonna be like, and I'm intrigued that Staunton had personally sought permission to replace a few of the numbers with songs written for the movie (e.g. "Just Leave Everything To Me"). I hope that doesn't mean they'll be straying too far from the traditional staging of the show. We could use a camp, large scale, uplifting version of this - and what made the Bette Midler revival so successful on Broadway was that it wasn't apologetic in how little had changed and much it just bathed itself in the nostalgia of the Carol Channing original.
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Post by Jon on Nov 3, 2023 17:07:50 GMT
I personally don't mind that this won't be a carbon copy of what came before. We do not need museum theatre.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Nov 3, 2023 17:19:41 GMT
This will be a darker version
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Post by A.Ham on Nov 3, 2023 18:07:39 GMT
I had the same problem when I first signed up, but did it again and got the '...Sunday clothes, watch your inbox' message, and took the 'watch your inbox' wording to mean I'd get a link/code emailed to me when the presale goes live in Dec. Fingers crossed!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 3, 2023 19:06:13 GMT
This will be a darker version Hands up everyone… who wants a “darker” version of Hello Dolly?
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Post by alece10 on Nov 3, 2023 20:42:30 GMT
God no. I want it to be camp and colourful. Never seen Dolly before so I don't want no messing about with it.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 3, 2023 21:21:10 GMT
This will be a darker version Hands up everyone… who wants a “darker” version of Hello Dolly? I'd like a semi serious take with a fully formed character on stage, not the camp star vehicle it often is (e.g. the Bette show). But I definitely don't want a dark minimalist show.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 4, 2023 0:33:19 GMT
This will be a darker version Hands up everyone… who wants a “darker” version of Hello Dolly? If its faithful to the text then why not?
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Post by Scswp on Nov 4, 2023 7:11:43 GMT
I do wonder what this is gonna be like, and I'm intrigued that Staunton had personally sought permission to replace a few of the numbers with songs written for the movie (e.g. "Just Leave Everything To Me"). I hope that doesn't mean they'll be straying too far from the traditional staging of the show. We could use a camp, large scale, uplifting version of this - and what made the Bette Midler revival so successful on Broadway was that it wasn't apologetic in how little had changed and much it just bathed itself in the nostalgia of the Carol Channing original. Interesting that some of the original score is being replaced by songs from the film version. Personally, I think ‘I Put My Hand In’ is a far better song than ‘Leave Everything to Me.’ Which others are they thinking of including/replacing?
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Post by damaskanddark on Nov 4, 2023 8:54:25 GMT
I do wonder what this is gonna be like, and I'm intrigued that Staunton had personally sought permission to replace a few of the numbers with songs written for the movie (e.g. "Just Leave Everything To Me"). I hope that doesn't mean they'll be straying too far from the traditional staging of the show. We could use a camp, large scale, uplifting version of this - and what made the Bette Midler revival so successful on Broadway was that it wasn't apologetic in how little had changed and much it just bathed itself in the nostalgia of the Carol Channing original. Interesting that some of the original score is being replaced by songs from the film version. Personally, I think ‘I Put My Hand In’ is a far better song than ‘Leave Everything to Me.’ Which others are they thinking of including/replacing? Plus Leave Everything was written for Streisand’s elastic voice. Staunton does not have such a voice. They’re also adding Love Look in My Window which was written for Ethel Merman when she closed the show.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Nov 4, 2023 11:32:34 GMT
I personally don't mind that this won't be a carbon copy of what came before. We do not need museum theatre. Who said anything about museum theatre? If a production can be exciting, entertaining and successful by replicating the scale, grandeur and campness of what made it a success the first time 'round why shouldn't a new generation of theatregoers get to experience it? The Bette Midler revival certainly wasn't a museum piece - it just knew what made the original so enjoyable and leant into that, subsequently giving the audience exactly what they expected and making a success of it. Nothing wrong with that. I saw it, it was brilliant. I'm not saying there isn't room for revisions and reinterpretations, and some shows certainly shouldn't just be wheeled out without change; but there's also room for great big broadway shows to be revived as they were originally intended, and I personally think it's misplaced and unfair to brand something like that "museum theatre" when it can be just as vibrant and exciting now as it was in the 1960s.
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 4, 2023 15:16:46 GMT
This will be a darker version Hands up everyone… who wants a “darker” version of Hello Dolly? 🙅♂️
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 4, 2023 15:45:54 GMT
In what way do people want it to be darker?
Am intrigued to know how they think the show would be improved.
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 4, 2023 16:34:46 GMT
I know oxfordsimon, it could be re-imagined.
Everything else seem to be.
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Post by apubleed on Nov 4, 2023 18:14:26 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Dec 5, 2023 18:32:22 GMT
It's Dolly day tomorrow. My link has just arrived.
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Post by jr on Dec 5, 2023 18:36:55 GMT
I was having a chat with the guy sitting by my side at Old friends a couple of weeks ago. We talked about how we thought Imelda Stauton was miscast in Follies (and how Joanna Riding was much better later on).
I saw IS in Gypsy, Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf? and Follies and she was playing the three roles exactly the same: angry and unsympathetic.
I hope she changes gears for this or instead of Hello, Dolly! it will be more like f*** off, Dolly!
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Post by solangelafitte on Dec 5, 2023 19:15:15 GMT
I was having a chat with the guy sitting by my side at Old friends a couple of weeks ago. We talked about how we thought Imelda Stauton was miscast in Follies (and how Joanna Riding was much better later on). I saw IS in Gypsy, Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf? and Follies and she was playing the three roles exactly the same: angry and unsympathetic. I hope she changes gears for this or instead of Hello, Dolly! it will be more like f*** off, Dolly! She's such a wonderful actress and I am looking forward to seeing what she does with Dolly, but wholeheartedly agree about her being miscast in Follies. And how I wish it was Joanna on the pro shot!
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