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Post by zahidf on Aug 1, 2019 23:26:10 GMT
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Aug 2, 2019 1:05:44 GMT
Anything by Simon Stone is an instant see for me after Yerma and Medea! Both brilliant and haunting so I cannot wait for this.
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Post by stefy69 on Aug 2, 2019 5:33:47 GMT
OMG dies and gone to heaven I love Kristin Scott Thomas !
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Post by Jan on Aug 2, 2019 9:43:07 GMT
It was rumoured a few years ago there had been a falling out between Simon Stone and Rufus Norris over a project they had in development at NT, so it seems that has been fixed. I remember Glenda Jackson playing this at the Old Vic in a melodramatic Philip Prowse production - it is quite a tough play to animate.
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Post by MrBunbury on Aug 2, 2019 9:48:26 GMT
It seems yesterday that the NT did the last production of Phedre with Helen Mirren and it was instead 2009. Where have those years gone???
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Post by Jan on Aug 2, 2019 10:11:01 GMT
It seems yesterday that the NT did the last production of Phedre with Helen Mirren and it was instead 2009. Where have those years gone??? True. There are so many plays by Racine and others the NT has never produced it seems odd to revive it again. They could even have done the Seneca version instead, the Almeida Diana Rigg version I saw is further in the past, or the Euripides version. |
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Post by londonpostie on Aug 2, 2019 10:31:48 GMT
It's a sure-fire banker, both on the Southbank and via NT Live. Perhaps it suggests a slightly higher risk factor elsewhere in the programming for next year ..
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Post by cirque on Aug 2, 2019 10:35:06 GMT
at last......something here to get really excited about
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Post by couldileaveyou on Aug 2, 2019 12:19:14 GMT
That's some exciting news! Now let's hope they cast an insanely hot Hippolytus...
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Post by craig on Aug 2, 2019 12:21:43 GMT
I would go and watch KST reading the phone book. Count me in.
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Post by zahidf on Aug 2, 2019 12:38:51 GMT
It seems yesterday that the NT did the last production of Phedre with Helen Mirren and it was instead 2009. Where have those years gone??? True. There are so many plays by Racine and others the NT has never produced it seems odd to revive it again. They could even have done the Seneca version instead, the Almeida Diana Rigg version I saw is further in the past, or the Euripides version. Maybe it's Thomas who wants to do this specific play? |
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Post by Jan on Aug 2, 2019 14:36:58 GMT
True. There are so many plays by Racine and others the NT has never produced it seems odd to revive it again. They could even have done the Seneca version instead, the Almeida Diana Rigg version I saw is further in the past, or the Euripides version. Maybe it's Thomas who wants to do this specific play? Doubt it - Simon Stone more likely. |
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Aug 2, 2019 14:55:45 GMT
Presumably this will be "Phedre by Simon Stone after Racine" type of situation in which case I doubt it will be much of a big deal that it was at the national relatively recently since it won't resemble any past versions very closely.
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Post by learfan on Aug 2, 2019 16:33:32 GMT
It seems yesterday that the NT did the last production of Phedre with Helen Mirren and it was instead 2009. Where have those years gone??? True. There are so many plays by Racine and others the NT has never produced it seems odd to revive it again. They could even have done the Seneca version instead, the Almeida Diana Rigg version I saw is further in the past, or the Euripides version. Yes, i saw Mirren and Rigg. Its a crack role for a woman of course. But it would be nice to see Andromache or Athaliah(?) for a change. Racine is a giant. |
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Post by peggs on Aug 2, 2019 18:43:23 GMT
Ohhhh exciting.
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Post by lynette on Aug 2, 2019 19:44:19 GMT
Is this the play that Toby Stephens was in with the goldfish? He admitted later that he wasn’t as it were, ‘present’ for most of the run.
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Post by theoracle on Aug 2, 2019 19:46:29 GMT
When does the scrum for tickets begin? 😁 Very exciting news indeed. Anyone have any guesses as to which stage this show may play in?
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Post by Xanderl on Aug 2, 2019 19:58:13 GMT
Hot ticket with a big name star and director/writer so they will probably stick it in the Dorfman to annoy people!
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Post by Jan on Aug 2, 2019 20:15:34 GMT
True. There are so many plays by Racine and others the NT has never produced it seems odd to revive it again. They could even have done the Seneca version instead, the Almeida Diana Rigg version I saw is further in the past, or the Euripides version. Yes, i saw Mirren and Rigg. Its a crack role for a woman of course. But it would be nice to see Andromache or Athaliah(?) for a change. Racine is a giant. For some reason I had to miss the 1984 Cheek by Jowl Version of Andromache and I thought never mind, it will come round again, and it never did (except CbJ did a production in French later). Racine is diminished in English due to the issue of translating the verse - you might as well do the Greek/Roman originals in my view. |
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Post by learfan on Aug 2, 2019 20:21:39 GMT
It was Jonathan Miller's opening play in his Old Vic AD ship thirty odd years ago, stupidly i passed on it. Never seen it done since.
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Post by Fleance on Aug 2, 2019 22:01:49 GMT
I don't think the NT needs to do Phedre again so soon, no matter who wants to do it. They presented an unusual production of Berenice many years ago -- 1990 -- with Lindsay Duncan, which I quite liked, directed by Tim Albery. That's due for a revival. Britannicus would also be a good choice.
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Post by lynette on Aug 2, 2019 22:15:14 GMT
So soon? 10 years?
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Post by Fleance on Aug 2, 2019 22:37:50 GMT
Yeah, I think for a Racine play, it is rather soon for the same theater to present, when there are so many other possibilities. |
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Post by theoracle on Aug 3, 2019 0:07:24 GMT
Agreed that there are many plays to choose from but I wouldn’t say 10 years is too soon. Many young theatregoers like myself would’ve missed the last production so to have it staged again now opens more opportunities and gives creatives a chance to revamp and revitalise dramatic gems like these.
I do kind of hope it is in the Dorfman though. Having an actor with as intense a presence as Ms Scott-Thomas in such an intimate space makes a ticket worth the price. Looking forward to joining the queue!
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Post by Jan on Aug 3, 2019 6:21:34 GMT
Agreed that there are many plays to choose from but I wouldn’t say 10 years is too soon. Many young theatregoers like myself would’ve missed the last production so to have it staged again now opens more opportunities and gives creatives a chance to revamp and revitalise dramatic gems like these. I do kind of hope it is in the Dorfman though. Having an actor with as intense a presence as Ms Scott-Thomas in such an intimate space makes a ticket worth the price. Looking forward to joining the queue! It won’t be in the Dorfman, Norris has a strict policy of new plays only in there. |
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Post by Xanderl on Aug 3, 2019 7:01:08 GMT
If it's anything like Yerma, Medea or The Wild Duck it will pretty much be a new play based on the bones of the story.
And Norris put on "Cleansed" in the Dorfman so if he does have a policy, he doesn't rigidly stick to it.
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Post by Jan on Aug 3, 2019 7:58:54 GMT
If it's anything like Yerma, Medea or The Wild Duck it will pretty much be a new play based on the bones of the story. And Norris put on "Cleansed" in the Dorfman so if he does have a policy, he doesn't rigidly stick to it. He announced the policy when he took over. But you are right, Cleansed is an example of him not following it - the only example I think. Compared with some hatchet jobs on Ibsen, and even this play, we’ve seen Simon Stone’s “The Wild Duck” was a model of fidelity to the text. |
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Post by emeraldbaudelaire on Jan 11, 2020 22:58:17 GMT
Anyone heard of locations or dates for this yet. Feel like it's been a while.
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