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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 17, 2020 18:11:53 GMT
Cancelled. They are working on how else to announce the winners.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 17, 2020 18:12:17 GMT
Beat me to it! A shame but the right decision.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2020 23:00:09 GMT
Such a shame, though of course the right decision, to cancel this year's ceremony.
I know some people on here and in the industry have mixed feelings about these awards, but I find it's always fantastic when they have mainstream coverage on ITV, radio, social media etc. to celebrate the year in theatre, which I feel this year will be needed more than any other to attempt to reach new audiences.
I hope there can be something to do this once the theatres all open again.
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Post by lynette on Mar 19, 2020 23:23:54 GMT
If they let people know who has won what they can do a little vid thank you. And they could show trailers of the big shows and comments from the audiences etc, they have enough for a nice programme.
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Post by zak97 on Mar 20, 2020 9:23:36 GMT
They could do it as a live stream. Would be complex but definitely achievable. That way the public can still see a ‘live’ reaction from the winners. Or, they could prerecord it and have it small scale like the nomination announcement, then insert winners speeches (communicates via Skype) and just have it put online.
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Post by theatreian on Mar 20, 2020 10:11:06 GMT
Petula Clark being nominated is really quite laughable. There are easily another 3 actresses just in Mary Poppins who'd be more worthy of a nom. Petula was on This Morning last week and pretty much said the same herself when they congratulated her on her nomination. She is always so self deprecating, considering her amazing career.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 10:16:33 GMT
I wonder if they should just postpone entirely until next year, then do a 24 month eligibility awards in 2022?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2020 13:03:29 GMT
I don't see any reason to postpone. The actual winning is a list of words which can be printed or read out. It's just the celebratory stuff that has to be cut. Announce them, have winners record their thanks, stitch it together for a broadcast, job done. It might just be my view, but they’ve spent a lot of time and effort turning the Olivier Awards into a real event - not just something to honour artists, but to celebrate theatre as a whole. Over the last decade it’s gone from being held in a hotel to the Royal Albert Hall with an edited broadcast going out on national TV with major event sponsorship. I’m not saying they can’t do it the way you’re suggesting but considering 2020 is going to be the most difficult year for theatre this side of WW2, postponing a big event like the Olivier Awards and holding after this is all over is a way to pay tribute, celebrate and announce to the larger world the West End is open again for business. From a finance point of view, ITV presumably aren’t going to pay for broadcast rights for a bunch of thank you messages recorded on an iPhone, so I think that must be a big factor in how they move forward too - most likely that money has been used and spent somehow on holding the event itself.
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Post by Nicholas on Mar 20, 2020 13:53:08 GMT
I don't see any reason to postpone. The actual winning is a list of words which can be printed or read out. It's just the celebratory stuff that has to be cut. Announce them, have winners record their thanks, stitch it together for a broadcast, job done. It might just be my view, but they’ve spent a lot of time and effort turning the Olivier Awards into a real event - not just something to honour artists, but to celebrate theatre as a whole. Over the last decade it’s gone from being held in a hotel to the Royal Albert Hall with an edited broadcast going out on national TV with major event sponsorship. I’m not saying they can’t do it the way you’re suggesting but considering 2020 is going to be the most difficult year for theatre this side of WW2, postponing a big event like the Olivier Awards and holding after this is all over is a way to pay tribute, celebrate and announce to the larger world the West End is open again for business. From a finance point of view, ITV presumably aren’t going to pay for broadcast rights for a bunch of thank you messages recorded on an iPhone, so I think that must be a big factor in how they move forward too - most likely that money has been used and spent somehow on holding the event itself. Perversely, the single best thing the Oliviers could do is a semi-amateurish, filmed at home, "show must go on" show!
Usually, the Olivier are an embarrassing misinterpretation of what we love about theatre. Last year, Jason Manford sang some songs from the 70s hit show Chicago, before cracking some of his stand-up fat jokes. As a representation of 2019 in theatre, it was embarrassing.
(and I always bang on about this - on national telly, they always forget to mention national theatre. Even shows like Jamie or The Girls, which started in regional theatre, are advertised as London's own. This is the single worst advert for theatre, and is our ONLY annual advert for theatre)
So, usually, the Oliviers are a bit ashamed to celebrate how regional theatre is, how glorious musicals are, and how far-reaching theatre can be. Is it just me, or is this now an own goal? [edit: I mean open goal but I'm THAT bad at sports metaphors]
What's the plot of a bunch of Fred and Ginger musicals? What did Judy and Gene do in Summer Stock? What's the damn cliché about musicals? Let's goooooooooooooo on with the shoooooooooooooooooooow!!!!! That's what we all (pretentious though we may be) really love about musicals. There's a sunny side to every situation. They defy gravity. We're singing in the rain.
And what could better exemplify that than an Oliviers done in THIS situation of situations? Imagine! What could be more old-fashioned musical than an opening musical routine performed via Facetime, orchestrated via Sibelius, cut together by the best damn talent in the biz - hokey as heck, but triumphant above all else? What could better exemplify the regionality of regional theatre than having our nominees log in (preferably tuxed up) via Skype from all across the country? What could better celebrate the communality of theatre than the theatre community STILL coming together?
The Oliviers have always been embarrassed about being a celebration of musicals, because we have this unfair perception of musicals as simplistic "let's put on a show" entertainment. Now we have an excuse to do that! As a theatre lover, to know that the industry's still on its feet would be a great morale booster. If I worked in the theatre, it might feel a bit above my level to celebrate rich celebs self-isolating in their mansions, but at least they're rich celebs celebrating my work, my business, and how irreplaceable this business and my business is. Best of all, as a regional advert for the indestructability of theatre...
In short, they should do the tackiest, cheesiest, most amateurish, LITERALLY PHONED IN awards show ever. It might be the best Oliviers ever.
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Post by geweena on Apr 1, 2020 14:49:35 GMT
So....had my refund from Royal Albert Hall yesterday. Everything back except the £1.50pp restoration fee. Now, I know it’s only £3 total but I find it a bit cheeky they are keeping this when all other tickets are being refunded in full from other theatres and these also include the levy’s. When questioned I got a pre prepared statement that they are refunding more than they actually have to by giving back booking fees anyway!
I was actually planning on donating value of one of the tickets back, but this has left a bit of a sour taste. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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Post by imogen on Apr 2, 2020 5:49:27 GMT
So....had my refund from Royal Albert Hall yesterday. Everything back except the £1.50pp restoration fee. Now, I know it’s only £3 total but I find it a bit cheeky they are keeping this when all other tickets are being refunded in full from other theatres and these also include the levy’s. When questioned I got a pre prepared statement that they are refunding more than they actually have to by giving back booking fees anyway! I was actually planning on donating value of one of the tickets back, but this has left a bit of a sour taste. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? It wasn’t from Royal Albert Hall, so kinda off topic, but Menier kept £6 (4 tickets @ £1.50 each) from the refund for Indecent for “handling fees.” I had tickets to 8 other shows that have gotten cancelled and every one of them has refunded the whole amount of what I paid. I know it’s only £6, but I agree with you. It definitely left a sour taste in my mouth. I know everyone is struggling with money issues right now, but it’s just the principle. If something gets cancelled, and it’s out of my control, I want ALL my money back.
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Post by alece10 on Apr 6, 2020 16:16:59 GMT
Just catching up on the Olivier Awards Greatest Moments which was broadcast last night. Nice programme but think there was a bit of artistic licence used in the title as it was more like greatest moments from the last 7 years. I'm guessing they can only go back for as long as ITV has been broadcasting. One bit I loved was the Joseph number and you could see Jac Yarrow in the chorus of students at the back. Little did he know that a couple of years later he would be starring as Joseph.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Sept 28, 2020 11:23:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 21:37:10 GMT
Just started on YouTube before the second part starts on ITV later...
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Post by jaqs on Oct 25, 2020 21:39:17 GMT
Great start with Cassidy Janson winning for &Juliet.
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Post by londonpostie on Oct 25, 2020 22:44:47 GMT
All your favourites so far; Andrew Scott, Sharon, Sam Tutty, bits for the NT ...
If The Doctor doesn't win I may need a nurse.
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Post by ncbears on Oct 25, 2020 22:49:01 GMT
We are able to watch on youtube in the states - but on a 12 minute delay - so there is one jerk who is intentionally spoiling the awards in chat (because the information is available on twitter)
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 25, 2020 22:49:50 GMT
Cassidy J was unbearable in that show. And Mary Poppins winning awards again is an absolute farce.
I know it’s been a bad year , but this is next level dumb.
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Post by djp on Oct 25, 2020 23:04:51 GMT
Cassidy J was unbearable in that show. And Mary Poppins winning awards again is an absolute farce. I know it’s been a bad year , but this is next level dumb. Regular Olivier nonsense of alternating between old luvvies, and the politically correct theme of the moment, and . judging on that performance , rewarding the musical theatre actress with the worst singing voice .
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Post by djp on Oct 25, 2020 23:12:13 GMT
Cassidy J was unbearable in that show. And Mary Poppins winning awards again is an absolute farce. I know it’s been a bad year , but this is next level dumb. If you are looking for best performances there's zero logical reason to confine your self to new shows . most of which are instantly forgettable. Charlie versus Sam is debatable . There isn't another MT role on requiring the range of skills Mary p has to master..
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Post by karloscar on Oct 25, 2020 23:48:46 GMT
Congrats to Sharon D Clarke for making the normally cringeworthy Love Changes Everything listenable and even relevant. And to Don Black for his Irving Berlin joke. (Far better than anything Jason uttered all night/career long.)
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Post by lynette on Oct 25, 2020 23:53:29 GMT
I’m not the musicals expert but the plays awards looked ok to me. Pity Maggie Smith missed out because hers was a performance of the decade.
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Post by londonpostie on Oct 26, 2020 0:50:17 GMT
If The Doctor doesn't win .. pfft.
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Post by graham on Oct 26, 2020 7:41:48 GMT
Not many surprises. I think it is wrong that Mary Poppins was up for Best Choreography again, as it won this in 2005, and the current show is heavily inspired by that production.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 26, 2020 7:50:29 GMT
I've only just got round to looking at the nominations (and now winners).
How can Mary P be so successful? Odd. Also a very bad year for the Nash.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Oct 26, 2020 8:02:28 GMT
Fantastic to see Cassidy Jansen win, I was hoping she would. Best character/actress in the show. I don't know about Miriam winning, she is the 'star' of that show and has a star quality for sure, i did think she was great in it, but best actress? I really think all the others embodied a character more and had more challenging roles. Sam Tutty was always going to win and that was deserved.
I couldn't get too excited about this years ceremony honestly between it being so long since the nominations came out, some of these shows now being so old and of course not actually having any theatre for 7 months, so hopefully next year it can go back to the full spectacle it normally is and the big build up it normally gets too.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Oct 26, 2020 8:23:52 GMT
There won’t be a ceremony next year IMO. Not enough shows will have opened this year.
Can you imagine the Best Musical category ?
And the nominees are..
Sleepless.
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 26, 2020 9:31:56 GMT
Miriam-Teak Lee - best ACTRESS? She’s a stunning girl and super singer but ACTRESS? I hate to say this but are we going down the woke mad 2020 tunnel here?
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Post by poster J on Oct 26, 2020 10:04:46 GMT
I hate to say this but are we going down the woke mad 2020 tunnel here? If you hate to say it, then don't say it, because what you've said is ridiculous. She was the front runner basically because she didn't have much in the way of competition. I haven't seen the show, but it doesn't strike me as the type of show which requires deep acting skills. Her acting was decent in On the Town a few years ago, and not bad in Hamilton either. Sharon D Clarke was pretty much the only winner I could be remotely excited about - the fact that Dear Evan Hansen won Best Musical and Best Actor and & Juliet won the rest says it all about the lack of quality and competition on the musicals side this year.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 26, 2020 10:12:27 GMT
I’m not the musicals expert but the plays awards looked ok to me. Pity Maggie Smith missed out because hers was a performance of the decade. God, I can't quite believe that was 'this Olivier year', if you know what I mean. Time is out of joint - it feels like a decade ago. (It was actually April-May 2019).
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