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Post by danb on Jun 23, 2017 10:07:04 GMT
Stick it in the West End and be done with it. Pay Ben Platt to come over and open it for 6 months ala Idina/Wicked and then cast Liam Doyle as Standby to take over full time after! Simples - I'll ring Marc Platt now! What he said! Am now sold on Mr Doyle as Evan.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 23, 2017 10:07:55 GMT
You know what..still have my doubts this will come over.
Liam Doyle looks too much like a Danny Zuko-type big guy on campus and not like an awkward kid. Where is that video of him supposedly singing an amazing Waving Through a Window?
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Post by viserys on Jun 23, 2017 10:39:09 GMT
Young Vic is too small for the current production (and Menier, Southwark etc are even smaller).
More likely is Lyric Hammersmith, but Spring Awakening at the same venue was transferred poorly.
Okay, well, I don't know the Lyric Hammersmith, so I'll take your word for it. And while I understand that the producers may not want to "downsize" DEH, I don't see why the TV screens and whatnot can't be downsized. From what I recall, many scenes take place in Evan's bedroom or Connor's family's living room or in fairly bare "school" settings. Broadway does many small shows in a "big way" and for big prices, which I personally think would work just as well in a smaller space - Once was my prime example for this, but also Scottsboro Boys, Next to Normal (worked fine in small theatres later), Spring Awakening and soon Fun Home. Obviously they can't keep the in-the-round-setting in the Young Vic here either. But let's wait and see. I guess I'm mostly hoping that it will come to a fringe venue because tickets will be cheaper
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jun 23, 2017 11:27:25 GMT
Young Vic is too small for the current production (and Menier, Southwark etc are even smaller).
More likely is Lyric Hammersmith, but Spring Awakening at the same venue was transferred poorly.
Okay, well, I don't know the Lyric Hammersmith, so I'll take your word for it. And while I understand that the producers may not want to "downsize" DEH, I don't see why the TV screens and whatnot can't be downsized. From what I recall, many scenes take place in Evan's bedroom or Connor's family's living room or in fairly bare "school" settings. Broadway does many small shows in a "big way" and for big prices, which I personally think would work just as well in a smaller space - Once was my prime example for this, but also Scottsboro Boys, Next to Normal (worked fine in small theatres later), Spring Awakening and soon Fun Home. Obviously they can't keep the in-the-round-setting in the Young Vic here either. But let's wait and see. I guess I'm mostly hoping that it will come to a fringe venue because tickets will be cheaper Young Vic works fine in the round, in fact that's how it is at the moment for Life of Galileo. Not many West End houses can safely copy that but maybe the Trafalgar Studios for a potential 'Fun Home' transfer?
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Post by ali973 on Jun 23, 2017 11:32:51 GMT
But you need to ask WHY they'd do this. Artistically, it makes no sense because they'd deviate and start all over again, instead of recreating the original- which is what most people would want to see. Shrinking the size of the original means two seats, two completely different tech processes. And most importantly, a smaller venue means smaller returns, but probably with the same amount of effort. There's got to be a business sense out of their decision to chose a non-West End venue, and the business plan of that run will also need to make sense.
I would think it might be at the Lyric Hammersmith or something. Is that where American Idol was? Or was that the Apollo? That was ah horrible venue.
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Post by danb on Jun 23, 2017 11:41:20 GMT
No, I believe 'American Idiot' did a short season at Hammersmith Apollo (think Dominion or Apollo Vic), then was done a year or so later at The Arts Theatre in Leicester Square.
Out of town try-out perhaps, but fringe venue seems like burning money.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jun 23, 2017 12:12:07 GMT
If they'd gotten a wiggle on it could have gone in the Phoenix... similar seating capacity?! Just put it straight into town!
Or actually is it going out of town to test the waters for a UK market?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 13:19:45 GMT
Liam Doyle sang You Will Be Found at the Musical Marathon at the Other Palace a couple of months ago, I have an audio of it somewhere if anyone wants to hear it, we were allowed to record, I don't think he's ever done Waving Through A Window though (as far as I'm aware).
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Post by Jon on Jun 23, 2017 13:27:08 GMT
Somewhere like Hampstead or Almeida might work for a limited run before a transfer to the West End or if Hytner and Starr want a musical, The Bridge Theatre could work.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jun 23, 2017 18:32:13 GMT
Liam Doyle sang You Will Be Found at the Musical Marathon at the Other Palace a couple of months ago, I have an audio of it somewhere if anyone wants to hear it, we were allowed to record, I don't think he's ever done Waving Through A Window though (as far as I'm aware). yes please martello736
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Post by ali973 on Jun 23, 2017 18:38:18 GMT
Liam Doyle sang You Will Be Found at the Musical Marathon at the Other Palace a couple of months ago, I have an audio of it somewhere if anyone wants to hear it, we were allowed to record, I don't think he's ever done Waving Through A Window though (as far as I'm aware). yes please martello736Yes pls
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 18:40:54 GMT
Liam Doyle sang You Will Be Found at the Musical Marathon at the Other Palace a couple of months ago, I have an audio of it somewhere if anyone wants to hear it, we were allowed to record, I don't think he's ever done Waving Through A Window though (as far as I'm aware). He was amazing, it made me tear up.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jun 23, 2017 18:51:50 GMT
Yes please!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 20:11:46 GMT
Have messaged all of you a download link for the audio. I'm so sorry Andy because I know I said I'd send you it absolutely ages ago and completely forgot, I promise it wasn't anything personal
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Post by alison on Jun 23, 2017 21:34:23 GMT
Could I have the audio link too please?
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Post by danb on Jun 23, 2017 21:51:52 GMT
Could somebody please forward it to me? Save poor Martellos fingers! There was a snippet of him doing 'For Forever' on his twitter but I've never found it again...
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Post by danielwhit on Jun 24, 2017 19:52:18 GMT
Ooh, likewise please.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 1, 2017 19:40:14 GMT
More covers:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 6:18:37 GMT
You know what..still have my doubts this will come over. Liam Doyle looks too much like a Danny Zuko-type big guy on campus and not like an awkward kid. Where is that video of him supposedly singing an amazing Waving Through a Window? Funnily enough ive always thought the opposite. To me Liam has always been too awkward teenager for roles like sam in ghost or link.
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Post by raiseitup on Jul 17, 2017 14:09:14 GMT
Just more rumours
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:11:52 GMT
Catch me rioting in the streets if this wins the Olivier over Fun Home. Getting ahead of myself I know!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 16:33:00 GMT
Heres hoping. Gielgud Theatre would be the perfect location for it I think.
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Post by danielwhit on Jul 17, 2017 16:42:22 GMT
It would be a good fit, I agree.
Time shall tell. Fingers crossed, all the same.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 17, 2017 18:07:24 GMT
Even a rumour is a glimmer of hope! Can't wait, still listening to it on repeat!
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Post by alece10 on Jul 17, 2017 18:30:12 GMT
Have heard a couple of songs on EP. Anyonew think the lead guy sounds like Aaron Tveit?
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Post by Mark on Jul 17, 2017 18:53:14 GMT
Gielgud would be the perfect venue
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jul 17, 2017 23:12:47 GMT
Have heard a couple of songs on EP. Anyonew think the lead guy sounds like Aaron Tveit? Not overly. Ben has a similar smooth, silky timbre to Aaron Tveit but their tones are quite different IMO. I think if this show comes over to the UK I would like to see the book rewritten. The book seriously leaves a lot to be desired - considering how great the songs are, the book seeeeeriously isnt of the same standard. Most of it feels like they are just saying words in between the songs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 23:13:58 GMT
Agreed and they can take out that awful glove song and give Conor's mum a song instead.
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Post by viserys on Jul 18, 2017 5:20:09 GMT
Agreed and they can take out that awful glove song and give Conor's mum a song instead. How about giving CONOR a song? I mean, we never really find out much about him and why he killed himself, do we? Just as Evan's friends remain ciphers. Even Zoe seems the cliche cookie-cutter All-American-Girl. We get her whining how evil Conor was to her in "Requiem" but that's about all. So, long story short: Yes, I'd appreciate some rewriting.
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Post by ali973 on Jul 18, 2017 5:51:10 GMT
I think whatever re-writes will happen will happen on the US tour. The show has been in development over three productions (Broadway being last). I think they'd be happy to put it to bed at this point. American teams tend not to do the Andrew Lloyd Webber/Boublil & Schoneberg thing and tinker with their shows at every production (my sources tell me that Miss Saigon UK tour had some rewrites. Again.)..Anyway, I also think that major rewrites tend to happen from London to Broadway, and not the other way around, where Broadway seems to be nirvana and shows reach their zenith over there. Any case of shows being rewritten from Broadway to London?
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