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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 12:47:46 GMT
Woman on a Verge Nervous breakdown for me. I just thought it was messy and came to westend bit to quick. I never thought I would ever hear someone call Women on the Verge overrated... I liked it a lot but found it severely underrated.
It didn't deserve to leave as soon as it did in London.
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Post by catqc on Apr 1, 2016 15:34:17 GMT
Adding my voice to the Book of Mormon - do not understand the obsession with this show at all.
Interested that with all the discussion of sexism, Grease hadn't come up. Am I the only person that thinks Grease is one of the most sexist shows to exist? Not even sure if sexist is the right word - it just gives such a bad message to women, it shocks me that schools still put it on!
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Post by Jon on Apr 1, 2016 15:50:58 GMT
I don't think Grease is sexist but the satire of 50s High School culture have been diluted due to the film and revivals.
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Post by PalelyLaura on Apr 1, 2016 16:05:37 GMT
Adding my voice to the Book of Mormon - do not understand the obsession with this show at all. Interested that with all the discussion of sexism, Grease hadn't come up. Am I the only person that thinks Grease is one of the most sexist shows to exist? Not even sure if sexist is the right word - it just gives such a bad message to women, it shocks me that schools still put it on! I hate Grease for this very reason - the ending where the main female character just changes her entire personality to get a man - urgh. It's a shame, as I actually quite like some of the music, and if it wasn't for the ending I might really like the show. Having said that, I've only seen bits of the film - I might feel differently if I watched it properly or saw a stage production.
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Post by Michael on Apr 1, 2016 16:13:14 GMT
I hate Grease for this very reason - the ending where the main female character just changes her entire personality to get a man - urgh. I find the 'old' Sandy much cuter than the 'new' Sandy.
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Post by primitivewallflower on Apr 1, 2016 16:40:04 GMT
Adding my voice to the Book of Mormon - do not understand the obsession with this show at all. Interested that with all the discussion of sexism, Grease hadn't come up. Am I the only person that thinks Grease is one of the most sexist shows to exist? Not even sure if sexist is the right word - it just gives such a bad message to women, it shocks me that schools still put it on! I actually didn't name Grease because I figured, you know, of course someone would have mentioned it already. Yes, absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 9:58:22 GMT
Although maybe not overrated I didn't like Bend it Like Beckham at all! I thought it was really messy and just not a worthy west end show
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Post by haz23 on Jun 30, 2016 7:41:29 GMT
Rent.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 7:56:22 GMT
I agree, I like it but it is way too overrated. I have never had the desire to see it live but I like the score.
Philippa Stefani is the only draw for me in this upcoming version!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 8:24:29 GMT
I definitely loved RENT a LOT back in the day, but I fear that I'm going to come out of the upcoming tour thinking "but why DON'T they get jobs?". Maybe bohemian living was the thing in the '90s, but these days, only rich kids can afford to follow their passions without a day job to support them. I just hope they don't do it with too much crushing earnestness, and that I'll be able to enjoy it as a period piece.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 8:24:38 GMT
Billy Elliot for me.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 30, 2016 9:11:48 GMT
There was a discussion earlier in the thread about cast recording and t\how well they do justice to the show.
I get most of theatre exposure through cast recordings, and some are magical (the first that springs to mind in 2013 Cinderella on Broadway- MAGIC! I could listen to it again and gain and even though it's edited I get full sense of the show) and some just don't work (Fun Home, for example, is a magic, tender, beautiful show, but I couldn't get through the cast recording once)
I wonder what makes a cast recording a good one? is it the show that won't lend to an audio only medium? quality of the actors as reording artists (because Beth Malone is a terrifc actress whom I love, but I couldnt listen to most Fun Home tracks)? the editing of the musical to fit the recording?
Do you guys have different recordings that are better/worse than others?
(for the record I think the Hamilton's recording does the show justice- in that that it's fun and a good show, but not the best thing that ever happened to musical theatre)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 9:19:48 GMT
The only thing that can put me off a cast recording of a show I like is the actors featured on it. For instance, with Fun Home, I only listen to the off-broadway recording of when it was at the Public because I much prefer Alexandra Socha's voice to Emily Skeggs. However, both times I've seen Fun Home have been with Emily Skeggs and in person her voice doesn't bother me at all and she gives a terrific performance.
In general though if I like all the actors/voices featured and I like the show, I will like the cast recording.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 30, 2016 9:38:38 GMT
The only thing that can put me off a cast recording of a show I like is the actors featured on it. For instance, with Fun Home, I only listen to the off-broadway recording of when it was at the Public because I much prefer Alexandra Socha's voice to Emily Skeggs. However, both times I've seen Fun Home have been with Emily Skeggs and in person her voice doesn't bother me at all and she gives a terrific performance. In general though if I like all the actors/voices featured and I like the show, I will like the cast recording. See but I love Beth and her voice in the performance I've seen, but it feels like the cast recording just doesn't flow- I find it tiresome to listen to. But love the actors, score and book very much.. I feel like some shows lose a quality in the recording studio while others don't (and some even better as cast records - Lippa's Wild Party for ex.) Do you not find that? Maybe its just me
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Post by Being Alive on Jun 30, 2016 9:41:49 GMT
Phantom. I don't get why anyone would want to watch it. I was SO bored.
However, I adored Love Never Dies. Weird right!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 10:22:31 GMT
The only thing that can put me off a cast recording of a show I like is the actors featured on it. For instance, with Fun Home, I only listen to the off-broadway recording of when it was at the Public because I much prefer Alexandra Socha's voice to Emily Skeggs. However, both times I've seen Fun Home have been with Emily Skeggs and in person her voice doesn't bother me at all and she gives a terrific performance. In general though if I like all the actors/voices featured and I like the show, I will like the cast recording. See but I love Beth and her voice in the performance I've seen, but it feels like the cast recording just doesn't flow- I find it tiresome to listen to. But love the actors, score and book very much.. I feel like some shows lose a quality in the recording studio while others don't (and some even better as cast records - Lippa's Wild Party for ex.) Do you not find that? Maybe its just me I don't think it is just you but it doesn't effect me too much I have to say. That is unless we're talking about a show like Once where I like the show a lot but don't particularly like the score.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jun 30, 2016 10:27:52 GMT
Yeah I get what you're saying. I also find Once registers very differently on stage and on the cd- and I like both but in different ways if that makes sense...
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Post by crabtree on Jun 30, 2016 12:47:21 GMT
Wicked - plain and simple.
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Post by anita on Jun 30, 2016 13:05:59 GMT
Once was so boring.
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Post by firefingers on Jun 30, 2016 13:57:57 GMT
Merrily We Roll Along. So friends fall out, a plot so dull that they have to tell it backwards.
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Post by primitivewallflower on Jun 30, 2016 14:14:38 GMT
In the "good but still overrated" column: The Producers. The original movie has always been one of my favorites, and I love musicals, so I should have been a tailor-made audience member. And... meh. I definitely laughed, but today I can't remember a single song or melody other than some vague sense of Nathan Lane's antics and the chants of "Unhappy" from "I Want to be a Producer". And "Springtime for Hitler" of course, but that was in the original movie, and anyway the musical version exemplified the repeated problem of the whole show: taking gags from the movie and pushing them one step too far over the top.
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Post by Raven on Jun 30, 2016 16:24:51 GMT
Add me to the list for The Book of Mormon. I enjoy most of the cast recording but I was underwhelmed when I actually got around to seeing the show. I don't really understand the huge hype about it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:27:19 GMT
I'm going to throw this in there... Hamilton is very overrated for me! I mean it's good and different but I don't think it should of sweeped the TONYS as it didn't give other good musicals a chance too. I don't see the hype and I've heard better shows than this
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Post by Nelly on Jun 30, 2016 16:51:14 GMT
I'm going to throw this in there... Hamilton is very overrated for me! I mean it's good and different but I don't think it should of sweeped the TONYS as it didn't give other good musicals a chance too. I don't see the hype and I've heard better shows than this When did you see it on Broadway, George?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 16:59:13 GMT
My thoughts exactly Nelly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:09:59 GMT
Look, if a show is good enough to win a bunch of awards, then the show is going to win a bunch of awards. Awards are technically about rewarding the cream of the crop, not sharing the accolades around like a school sports day where no child is allowed to feel like a loser. What do you think they should have done? Rejected all their nominations that they worked so hard for? Delayed opening until a year where all the other shows sucked? Asked the judges when they were going to be in so they could be sure to do a half-hearted job that night?
Also, maybe don't judge a show by its cast recording. And make sure you're having the right conversation. It's alright to be concerned that the hype is so extreme that you're worried the show won't live up to it. It's unfair to write a show off as overrated without giving it a decent chance to win you over. It might not, and that's fine, but give it a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:20:07 GMT
I'm going to throw this in there... Hamilton is very overrated for me! I mean it's good and different but I don't think it should of sweeped the TONYS as it didn't give other good musicals a chance too. I don't see the hype and I've heard better shows than this When did you see it on Broadway, George? I'm sure you have a rough idea of some shows you haven't seen yet, nelly! Eh?! I'm allowed to have an opinion, if you read what I said, I said its good and different. But I just think it seems quire overrated and over shows, like Waitress, SoR, Shuffle Along, She Loves Me etc, deserved some awards too?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:23:08 GMT
I agree, I used to judge Hamilton by the word of mouth and the Cast Recording, but it isn't really a fair judgement until you have seen the show. That said, if we are including the amount of awards, you can only really judge something like the Grammy Award win based solely on the Cast Recording, which I personally thought was deserved, especially as it was quite a weak category anyway (An American in Paris, Fun Home, The King and I and Something Rotten!) though that is not to say the shows are weak, just that Hamilton has the strongest score of the five.
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Post by Nelly on Jun 30, 2016 17:25:00 GMT
When did you see it on Broadway, George? I'm sure you have a rough idea of some shows you haven't seen yet, nelly! Eh?! I'm allowed to have an opinion, if you read what I said, I said its good and different. But I just think it seems quire overrated and over shows, like Waitress, SoR, Shuffle Along, She Loves Me etc, deserved some awards too? Actually, I don't think you should be allowed to have an opinion on any award a show has or hasn't won if you haven't seen it, other than best score and even then a cast recording might not have everything you hear on it. Not liking the style or a cast recording is one thing but to say something shouldn't have swept awards when you haven't seen it AND say that it didn't give other musicals a chance too is just utter rubbish. They had as much chance of winning as Hamilton did. In fact the hype could have done Hamilton a disservice when it came to awards time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:29:37 GMT
I'm sure you have a rough idea of some shows you haven't seen yet, nelly! Eh?! I'm allowed to have an opinion, if you read what I said, I said its good and different. But I just think it seems quire overrated and over shows, like Waitress, SoR, Shuffle Along, She Loves Me etc, deserved some awards too? Actually, I don't think you should be allowed to have an opinion on any award a show has or hasn't won if you haven't seen it, other than best score and even then a cast recording might not have everything you hear on it. Not liking the style or a cast recording is one thing but to say something shouldn't have swept awards when you haven't seen it AND say that it didn't give other musicals a chance too is just utter rubbish. They had as much chance of winning as the others did. It was almost inevitable that Hamilton was going to win at basically every awards to be honest. This is just what my preconceived opinion is. Please don't have a go, I'm not having a go at you. Reasons people don't go and see certain shows are because they don't fancy the show because of the story, songs and other factors. Otherwise, people just would go to every show there is going. I'm sure you haven't seen every show going and have had to pick and choose what you would like to see, this is the same with me for Hamilton. It's not exactly a big deal...
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