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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 18, 2018 19:01:27 GMT
So this is defo not 90mins like advertised?
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 18, 2018 22:09:46 GMT
I saw this on Saturday night and thought overall it was just a bit 'meh'. I was expecting a real laugh out loud show, but I could probably count the number of times I laughed on 2 hands. The cast are all good - Jason Gardiner plays the part well (completely over the top, which is what the role needed), and his voice surprised me. Tracie Bennett was the standout , but she only really has 1 song (that I can remember) and isn't on stage for very long at all, which was a real shame. I'm not sure which of the kids was on on Saturday, but she was great.
For me I'd say this is a 4 star production of a 2 star show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 22:12:51 GMT
Tracie always steals every show she is in it seems (*cough* *cough* Follies). So it doesn't surrpise me in the slightest she is the standout in this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 9:42:21 GMT
Papering like mad So much for Tracie Bennett Is a multiple award winner That desperate for work?! So much for all the Follies fans flocking to see her 😂😂😂 Well now P, I'm not sure whether she's "desperate" but she is a jobbing actor and very often you takes the work where it comes. Tracie does also seem a bit of a game old gal so perhaps she just really fancied doing this show? It does sound like a bit of a giggle and for a 'tits 'n' teeth' pro like her, perhaps she just fancied something a bit lighter after 'Follies'.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 19, 2018 10:06:43 GMT
So this is defo not 90mins like advertised? Unless its changed since first preview 1 hour Act 1 45 mins Act 2
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Post by anita on Mar 19, 2018 10:40:16 GMT
My lucky day! Seeing this tonight.
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Post by QueerTheatre on Mar 19, 2018 12:56:14 GMT
The is only on one of my regular papering sites, and for a very small number of tickets for tomorrow evening - where else has it been? I'd love to catch it, but not at the regular inflated prices!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 11:56:46 GMT
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Post by julian on Mar 20, 2018 16:21:58 GMT
Papering like mad So much for Tracie Bennett Is a multiple award winner That desperate for work?! So much for all the Follies fans flocking to see her 😂😂😂 There are no small roles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 16:46:34 GMT
Papering like mad So much for Tracie Bennett Is a multiple award winner That desperate for work?! So much for all the Follies fans flocking to see her 😂😂😂 There are no small roles But there are crap roles
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 17:15:57 GMT
Ummmm . . .
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 20, 2018 17:17:38 GMT
I find it weird that the ushers were constantly screaming (and I mean screaming - I’ve never seen enforcement like it before) at people taking photos of the stage when I saw it, yet they’ve allowed Ticketmaster to post a photo of the stage on Instagram
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Post by alece10 on Mar 20, 2018 18:00:53 GMT
I find it weird that the ushers were constantly screaming (and I mean screaming - I’ve never seen enforcement like it before) at people taking photos of the stage when I saw it, yet they’ve allowed Ticketmaster to post a photo of the stage on Instagram I mentioned this in my post after the first preview. It was bordering on being agressive. I was in the back row of stalls and so got the full blast from the ushers. In the end we all started laughing every time it happened as it was getting embarrassing. I pity anyone who actually gets caught. They were more like bouncers than ushers.
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 20, 2018 22:01:47 GMT
Oh I completely understand that - the owner of the artwork should be free to govern how it is shared (if at all). It just seems weird for this production it seems like they are VERY serious about protecting their intellectual property, however that image from Ticketmaster is now in the public domain and can be shared and copied freely. If someone was going to ‘steal’ their idea and copy the stage design, they can use that photo to do it.
It seems to me that now the only thing that could possibly happen by allowing audience members to take their own photo (which lets face it will all be pretty much identical to the one shared by Ticketmaster) and share them on social media is that it might actually entice others to buy a ticket if they see the photo on their social media timelines and like the look of it. And from looking at the poor ticket sales for this, they could use all the publicity they can get, and that would be free marketing.
In my opinion Hamilton and Grinning Man have the right idea - encourage the sharing of photos before the show starts to drum up interest. But then again I haven’t spent many hours and a lot of money designing a set, so it should definitely be down to the individual productions to decide what to do.
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Post by daniel on Mar 20, 2018 22:05:41 GMT
I find it weird that the ushers were constantly screaming (and I mean screaming - I’ve never seen enforcement like it before) at people taking photos of the stage when I saw it, yet they’ve allowed Ticketmaster to post a photo of the stage on Instagram I mentioned this in my post after the first preview. It was bordering on being agressive. I was in the back row of stalls and so got the full blast from the ushers. In the end we all started laughing every time it happened as it was getting embarrassing. I pity anyone who actually gets caught. They were more like bouncers than ushers. they were the same during Toxic Avenger, so maybe it's a venue policy as much as it is a producer's wish.
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Post by Mark on Mar 20, 2018 22:17:54 GMT
What a nice surprise this was. Daft as a brush but this really is a 5* cast and a really strong production of what is really just a bit of a silly show. Definitely held my attention throughout - very engaging and the ending had me in stitches. It’s definitely a show to see for any Musical lover. Jason Gardner definitely channeling Rupaul
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 15:45:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 15:54:31 GMT
OMGosh how smashing. I haven't seen that many jazz hands since I woke up backstage at the closing night of 'Chicago'. And I don't know about her inner Judy Garland but Tracie seems to be channeling her inner Angela Lansbury in this one . . .
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 21, 2018 18:20:25 GMT
They’ve got some nerve charging £74 for a premium at this theatre.
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 21, 2018 19:32:16 GMT
They’ve got some nerve charging £74 for a premium at this theatre. SEVENTY FOUR QUID?!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 21, 2018 19:35:01 GMT
They’ve got some nerve charging £74 for a premium at this theatre. SEVENTY FOUR QUID?! Yup. The seats arent even attached to the floor. Some nerve..
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 21, 2018 22:10:57 GMT
Definitely gonna try and see this but not at those inflated prices. Bound to be deals about. It is the Arts Theatre, after all 😁
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Post by theatreian on Mar 21, 2018 22:13:42 GMT
Yes it does seem a bit excessive! It's hardly the Palladium after all.
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 22, 2018 9:17:00 GMT
If a company posts something on social media, they definitely have an expectation that it will be shared and copied around - that is the whole point of companies putting things on social media in the first place, so they get shared to various places and get them seen, this is how things go 'viral'. I can go on that image on on the Ticketmaster Instagram page right now and share it wherever I want (there's a 'share to Facebook' and 'copy link' button on the image for example - see screenshot) and not be breaking any copyright rules. If they didn't want it shared they wouldn't put it on social media - the reason they've put it on social media is so that it CAN be shared. Photos on social media and normal websites aren’t treated the same. Anyway, my point is - what is the difference between Ticketmaster sharing the image and someone from the general public sharing pretty much the exact same image? Someone from the general public could share the Ticketmaster image if they wanted, so posting their own one isn't any different, and the only thing that could possibly happen is it could be free (much needed) marketing for the show. As I said, obviously the producers can have any rules they want with regards to their own property - it just seems like it doesn't make any logical sense. If they were really that bothered about protecting their copyright they wouldn’t have allowed the image to be put on social media at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 9:25:47 GMT
If a company posts something on social media, they definitely have an expectation that it will be shared and copied around - that is the whole point of companies putting things on social media in the first place, so they get shared to various places and get them seen, this is how things go 'viral'. I can go on that image on on the Ticketmaster Instagram page right now and share it wherever I want (there's a 'share to Facebook' and 'copy link' button on the image for example - see screenshot) and not be breaking any copyright rules. If they didn't want it shared they wouldn't put it on social media - the reason they've put it on social media is so that it CAN be shared. Photos on social media and normal websites aren’t treated the same... Anyway, my point is - what is the difference between Ticketmaster sharing the image and someone from the general public sharing pretty much the exact same image? Someone from the general public could share the Ticketmaster image if they wanted, so posting their own one isn't any different, and the only thing that could possibly happen is it could be free (much needed) marketing for the show. As I said, obviously the producers can have any rules they want with regards to their own property - it just seems like it doesn't make any logical sense. If they were really that bothered about protecting their copyright they wouldn’t have allowed the image to be put on social media at all. Its probably down to Ticketmaster wanting their picture being shared exclusively, for clicks, so it all links back to that page where you spend money with them, rather than anyone elses page.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 9:36:36 GMT
Do you really not see the difference between "allowing an officially sanctioned picture to be shared in a way that also promotes Ticketmaster" and "just letting any old person take pictures even if that then results in shoddy pictures that could misrepresent the production being spread around with a side effect of inadvertently making it much harder to stop people taking pictures during the show"? Weird.
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Post by Stasia on Mar 22, 2018 9:37:07 GMT
Anyway, my point is - what is the difference between Ticketmaster sharing the image and someone from the general public sharing pretty much the exact same image? Someone from the general public could share the Ticketmaster image if they wanted, so posting their own one isn't any different, and the only thing that could possibly happen is it could be free (much needed) marketing for the show. As I said, obviously the producers can have any rules they want with regards to their own property - it just seems like it doesn't make any logical sense. If they were really that bothered about protecting their copyright they wouldn’t have allowed the image to be put on social media at all. The difference is huge. The company has full rights to approve the quality and quantity of the images. As an ex-comms theatre person I really hated blurry images taken by the members of public that were not doing our show any justice and could only make people NOT want to see the show, not the other way round. So yes, I would like social media only to use the photos I carefully chose for that purpose.
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 22, 2018 9:37:54 GMT
That could be it - but if that's the case I would hope that Ticketmaster paid a significant amount for exclusivity, as by not allowing the public to do free marketing for them they are significantly reducing their reach. And even if the public did take photos and post them (which is still happening anyway) Ticketmaster or the show would have no way of knowing they are out there, and the show is getting free marketing - why would any producer want to stop that from happening?
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 22, 2018 9:48:20 GMT
I went last night. Great cast and it’s great fun but it’s a bit of fluff.
If you can get a comp, a discount or the front row for 20 quid then go.
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Post by jamb0r on Mar 22, 2018 9:52:27 GMT
Anyway, my point is - what is the difference between Ticketmaster sharing the image and someone from the general public sharing pretty much the exact same image? Someone from the general public could share the Ticketmaster image if they wanted, so posting their own one isn't any different, and the only thing that could possibly happen is it could be free (much needed) marketing for the show. As I said, obviously the producers can have any rules they want with regards to their own property - it just seems like it doesn't make any logical sense. If they were really that bothered about protecting their copyright they wouldn’t have allowed the image to be put on social media at all. The difference is huge. The company has full rights to approve the quality and quantity of the images. As an ex-comms theatre person I really hated blurry images taken by the members of public that were not doing our show any justice and could only make people NOT want to see the show, not the other way round. So yes, I would like social media only to use the photos I carefully chose for that purpose. It still makes absolutely no sense to me, when this show is obviously struggling they are limiting the free marketing they can get. If poor quality images was that much of an issue, why would Hamilton actively encourage it? Hamilton's whole brand is centred around absolute excellence and the pinnacle of theatre, yet they allow photos from the public which they haven't vetted. Whenever someone's posted a photo of the Grinning Man set (which is encouraged by the producers) on the theatre Facebook groups I am a member of the reactions are always positive and you can see comments from people saying how it looks interesting and they might consider going. Surely the positive reactions would significantly outweigh the negative.
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