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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 11:28:08 GMT
Saw this the other night.......it's fresh, honest, full of heart, very funny. It's not just a coming out story, it's about family, childhood, prejudice, acceptance and love. It was a full house and received an instant and full standing ovation on the final chord. Music was very fresh and catchy. Choreography was fun and wonderfully witty. The acting from everyone was terrific. Yes, there are a few local references to Sheffield but nothing that anyone with half a degree of intelligence wouldn't be able to piece together. Direction, Set and Sound also terrific. Would be unfair to pick out performers as everyone was brilliant. I think back to some of the dross currently on the London stage and think this should definitely make it in....a contemporary Billy Eliott
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Post by hulmeman on Feb 25, 2017 20:21:22 GMT
Saw this the other night.......it's fresh, honest, full of heart, very funny. It's not just a coming out story, it's about family, childhood, prejudice, acceptance and love. It was a full house and received an instant and full standing ovation on the final chord. Music was very fresh and catchy. Choreography was fun and wonderfully witty. The acting from everyone was terrific. Yes, there are a few local references to Sheffield but nothing that anyone with half a degree of intelligence wouldn't be able to piece together. Direction, Set and Sound also terrific. Would be unfair to pick out performers as everyone was brilliant. I think back to some of the dross currently on the London stage and think this should definitely make it in....a contemporary Billy Eliott sistermaryann, you have summed up my feeling about this show too. It was the other subjects you mention that engaged me as much as Jamie's story.
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 25, 2017 21:02:39 GMT
Interval time: Fantastic performances by all so far and a great audience to match. Looking forward to act 2.
This show definitely deserves a life outside Sheffield, so rare to see the Crucible sell out like this
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Post by hulmeman on Feb 25, 2017 21:20:30 GMT
Get ready for Act 2 then Dan213! Let us know....
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Post by stageyninja83 on Feb 25, 2017 22:23:55 GMT
Saw the show this afternoon and I loved it! The guy playing Jamie blew me away but the whole cast were really strong. This deserves a longer life, I'd love to see it again.
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Post by terrylondon79 on Feb 25, 2017 22:28:03 GMT
I caught this last weekend, thought it was one of the best things weve seen on stage for a long time. Great songs, choreography and set. Dan Gillespie sells was signing CD and programs in the foyer after the show. Cheekily asked if there they had plans for the show after Sheffield. His response was he hoped so...
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 25, 2017 22:40:57 GMT
Act two was also great and there was another full standing ovation from the entire audience at the end of the finale. Having seen the first preview of this, I particularly liked the reworked finale and felt the show finished with much more energy as a result. Spotted the real Jamie in the audience this evening too.
All in all, a great night and a great show. Really looking forward to seeing what the future holds for this show!
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Post by drowseychap on Feb 25, 2017 23:22:03 GMT
Just on my way home 130 miles drive but so so worth it totally agree with the last few posts . So much heart and soul in this show . And a good old fashioned every person rose at once ovation at the end ..... I felt I would have liked a better song for the drag queens and seen them a little more .. be who you wanna be ala k boots type song maybe ? He's my boy Josie surely can belt out those notes ... was moved to tears a couple of times ... really deserved a much longer life .... great set too I thought simple but clever ..... fingers crossed for a tour
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 12:40:11 GMT
there was another full standing ovation from the entire audience at the end of the finale. Truly the Crucible is the new Lourdes.
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 26, 2017 17:43:32 GMT
there was another full standing ovation from the entire audience at the end of the finale. Truly the Crucible is the new Lourdes. What is your problem? You haven't posted a single constructive post in this thread...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 18:03:18 GMT
Truly the Crucible is the new Lourdes. What is your problem? You haven't posted a single constructive post in this thread... Or on any thread!
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 18:11:01 GMT
This is a discussion forum, not a fanzone, or a place to promote vested interests.
In fact, I did say that I found the publicity misleading, so that is a constructive criticism to suggest that the publicity should be more clear in future. Now that the show has had its run in Sheffield and there's wider public knowledge of it, I expect that future showings will be publicised less coyly and more clearly.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 19:14:36 GMT
This is a discussion forum, not a fanzone, or a place to promote vested interests. In fact, I did say that I found the publicity misleading, so that is a constructive criticism to suggest that the publicity should be more clear in future. Now that the show has had its run in Sheffield and there's wider public knowledge of it, I expect that future showings will be publicised less coyly and more clearly. Can you point me to where exactly the publicity is misleading please? The publicity I saw said that Jamie has a secret, you said that you thought it was going to be about him being transgender and expressed disappointment that this wasn't the story. Fair enough if the concept didn't live up to your expectations but where exactly were you misled? Where was transgender mentioned apart from in my very first post in this thread which was pure speculation? Also nobody is treating this thread like a fanzone. They're reporting what they have seen. You haven't seen it, so...... If you want to see a fanzone there are other threads that might qualify. I don't see you calling those out. Why? . Finally. Your continual singling out of less able members of the audience not being able to stand for an ovation is starting to sound obsessive and borderline offensive.
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 26, 2017 19:14:45 GMT
This is a discussion forum, not a fanzone, or a place to promote vested interests. In fact, I did say that I found the publicity misleading, so that is a constructive criticism to suggest that the publicity should be more clear in future. Now that the show has had its run in Sheffield and there's wider public knowledge of it, I expect that future showings will be publicised less coyly and more clearly. Take a look back at the publicity and you'll see it was advertised perfectly clearly. The publicity stated "Jamie has a secret". I fail to see how this is at all misleading
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 22:23:54 GMT
Take a look back at the publicity and you'll see it was advertised perfectly clearly. The publicity stated "Jamie has a secret". I fail to see how this is at all misleading There's no right or wrong here. The publicity said different things to different people. There was an image in the publicity in addition to the text. I've said what the publicity meant to me. I can't make you believe me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 22:46:51 GMT
Take a look back at the publicity and you'll see it was advertised perfectly clearly. The publicity stated "Jamie has a secret". I fail to see how this is at all misleading There's no right or wrong here. The publicity said different things to different people. There was an image in the publicity in addition to the text. I've said what the publicity meant to me. I can't make you believe me. Which image? Show us.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 23:01:40 GMT
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 26, 2017 23:06:43 GMT
That really suggests nothing about the character being transgender...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 26, 2017 23:10:52 GMT
What? This one? What is it about this that says "transgender" to you?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 23:39:07 GMT
I agree that the image of Jamie, a 16-year-old "he", doesn't specify either transgender or cross-dressing or just playing around or a part-time drag persona, which I understand from other people's posts about the musical is in fact his "secret".
I was unaware that there's apparently now a big teenage drag scene, as someone explained upthread. I tend to think of drag as a past historical aberration, as a coping mechanism at times when sexualities had to be hidden. Whereas transgender has become very prominent in the media, in the arts and entertainment and in society in recent years.
So I never considered a part-time drag persona as a possibility. For me, transgender seemed the only likely possibility. That is why I assumed from this publicity that Jamie's secret was that she was a transgender female. I felt that the publicity didn't specify his secret, and I have explained why I thought that. I accept that the information was sufficient for you to correctly identify his secret. Congratulations! That doesn't alter the fact that it made me expect something that turned out to be wrong.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 26, 2017 23:45:53 GMT
Perhaps Dan213 and/or Burly Bear could enlighten me by telling me how I was meant to interpret the publicity?
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Post by Dan213 on Feb 27, 2017 0:03:37 GMT
Perhaps Dan213 and/or Burly Bear could enlighten me by telling me how I was meant to interpret the publicity? Could have Googled it perhaps? I'm sure if you were genuinely interested then you would have. There are articles from Nov/Dec time last year that outline the inspirations for the story. I think the root of the issue here is that you want to kick up a fuss and gain attention on a public forum. Your posts in other threads lean this way too...
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Post by The Matthew on Feb 27, 2017 6:13:45 GMT
A show about acceptance starts a squabble about what interpretations people are permitted to have had. OK.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 6:50:50 GMT
Not really. I think HG s just trying to swerve the focus of the discussion away from his earlier comments. Understandably! Let's move on eh
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 27, 2017 10:12:10 GMT
Perhaps Dan213 and/or Burly Bear could enlighten me by telling me how I was meant to interpret the publicity? Could have Googled it perhaps? I'm sure if you were genuinely interested then you would have. There are articles from Nov/Dec time last year that outline the inspirations for the story. I think the root of the issue here is that you want to kick up a fuss and gain attention on a public forum. Your posts in other threads lean this way too... So, your answer is that the official publicity was intended to interest people sufficiently to Google for unofficial articles which were published after the official publicity? I doubt that. May I ask Burly Bear and/or Dan to kindly tell us how they interpreted the publicity (text and image) at the time they first saw them, i.e. before Googling for unofficial articles at a later date?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 10:20:08 GMT
No, because I'm not complaining about being misled. So it's completely irrelevant.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Feb 27, 2017 10:37:57 GMT
No, because I'm not complaining about being misled. So it's completely irrelevant. You scoffed at how I interpreted it, implying either that you didn't believe me or that there was another interpretation obvious to you and which you thought should have been obvious to me. Now you don't deign to explain your scoff.
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Post by danb on Feb 27, 2017 11:06:32 GMT
HG - Nobody scoffed at your interpretation. The 'conflict' arose from your vocal disappointment of the show not being about what you thought it was. Instead of shrugging your shoulders and getting on with life you bemoaned this on a public message board and are now unhappy with the attention and responses that this has received.
BB - You are a moderator on said message board and as such should not be quite so 'stick pointy'. Riling people up will of course encourage people to bite. I hope you have learnt from this and can improve your moderation skills accordingly.
Dan - Has stated some facts and has in fact seen the show.
This, to me, is a quick summary of what's going on here. Nobody has died, nobody has been profaned and nothing of any consequence has occurred. Time to step away Gentlemen. (nearly put a gag here about assuming you were all gentlemen based on the publicity but thought better of it).
It is tiring and frustrating to read threads like this that go on and on. The answer is not 'well don't read them then'. The answer is 'well don't create them then'. God knows there is enough intolerance in the world about things that actually matter!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 13:54:06 GMT
Thank so for the advice, noted!
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Post by danb on Feb 27, 2017 14:29:35 GMT
Absolutely no thanks neccessary Burly. I'm quite sure you'd already taken yourself away for some self admonishment! Y'know the kids look up to you.
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