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Post by theatre-turtle on Jun 7, 2017 13:40:23 GMT
There's been plenty of recent hits. Angels in America, Hedda Gabler, Twelfth Night, Amadeus and the forthcoming Follies for example.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 13:49:28 GMT
Well. Not quite. He went to St. Edward's School in Oxford, which is a secondary school. Albeit a very swanky one. But didn't go to university there. Or anywhere for that matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:07:40 GMT
I went to Oxford. I had a lovely day out, and then I came home again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:15:46 GMT
I went to Oxford. I had a lovely day out, and then I came home again. I went twice. Because it rained the first time.
Do I get the Old Vic as well as the NT?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jun 7, 2017 14:17:44 GMT
Laurence Olivier had Kenneth Tynan as Associate, Literary Manager.
Similarly, Rufus Norris has Ben Power as Associate, Head of New Work Department.
The theatre-making process now is different from then, and Rufus Norris is a far superior director to Laurence Olivier, but a senior Associate providing dramaturgical support to the artistic director was and is present then and now.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jun 7, 2017 14:19:58 GMT
Fwiw the NT are planning to introduce a programme from 2018 to stage more co-productions with the intention to tour more shows nationally.
I went to Harrow (state comprehensive), if anyone at the NT wants to give me a gig.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jun 7, 2017 14:24:38 GMT
^I'd have liked to double-"like" the above post because I "liked" both points!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:30 GMT
That's what you get For putting a non Oxbridge candidate In a job they aren't designed for Why is his status as "non Oxbridge" a problem? I genuinely don't understand. Are you just being provocative for the sake of it? I am trying to see if there is a link Between his education His background And the fact he does a sh*tty job |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:39 GMT
I'm going to see 'Common' next week. If it's not the hot mess that everyone is suggesting it is I shall be VERY annoyed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:26:58 GMT
There's been plenty of recent hits. Angels in America, Hedda Gabler, Twelfth Night, Amadeus and the forthcoming Follies for example. None of which were directed by him |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:29:55 GMT
I am trying to see if there is a link Between his education His background And the fact he does a sh*tty job I don't think you're going to end up with anything there p. Many Oxbridge graduates do a sh*tty job too. Just take a look at our government for a start. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:39:04 GMT
Danton's Death didn't have an interval in 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:41:50 GMT
I wonder which production holds the record at the NT for returns and/or interval walk-outs Both runs of "Danton's Death" I think. I really Don't think that is correct |
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jun 7, 2017 14:48:49 GMT
Both runs of "Danton's Death" I think. I really Don't think that is correct Meaning, I suppose, that they were both to your personal taste. |
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Post by jadnoop on Jun 7, 2017 14:49:21 GMT
It's funny how -like most art forms- bad plays bring out the armchair experts convinced how their hindsight & opinions are objective truths they have always known.
If only your favourite theatre company/football team/musician had just listened to your wisdom, this disaster could have been prevented!
I'm sure there are many people at the NT kicking themselves that years of putting on plays gave them the audacity to attempt to put on a play without first consulting the fountain of all knowledge that is online messageboards!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:53:27 GMT
Normally I loathe the charming updates Facebook gives, but man what I wouldn't give sometimes for that little laugh-face emoji one from there on posts here sometimes  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 15:07:22 GMT
If I'm honest I feel the reveiw are too harsh. Yes this is not a perfect or the best show but the production for me was quite visually exciting and I have seen much worse shows that critics loved. I feel this play is a 3stars and I feel this does not deserve so many one star reviews.
I also like how the national out in such different shows as it will bring many different audiences and if they domt try andything new and different they they will just do the same old plays and that is not what the national theatre does.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jun 7, 2017 15:21:28 GMT
I really enjoyed Not Safe for Work by D C Moore which hilariously followed the fate of the employees of a government agency relocated to a business park in Northampton. With Zawe Ashton, Sacha Dhawan, Anastasia Hille and others.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jun 7, 2017 16:18:54 GMT
I wonder which production holds the record at the NT for returns and/or interval walk-outs Both runs of "Danton's Death" I think. May I ask why? Was it very boring? Very gruesome? |
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Post by Jan on Jun 7, 2017 16:29:20 GMT
Both runs of "Danton's Death" I think. May I ask why? Was it very boring? Very gruesome? Saw them both, not terrible just mediocre. The NT has had far worse audience figures than either of those. |
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Post by Jan on Jun 7, 2017 16:30:55 GMT
If I'm honest I feel the reveiw are too harsh. Yes this is not a perfect or the best show but the production for me was quite visually exciting and I have seen much worse shows that critics loved. I feel this play is a 3stars and I feel this does not deserve so many one star reviews. I also like how the national out in such different shows as it will bring many different audiences and if they domt try andything new and different they they will just do the same old plays and that is not what the national theatre does. I think it is a myth that the NT attracts different audiences to different shows, I think overwhelmingly it is the same audience. |
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Post by Jan on Jun 7, 2017 16:33:53 GMT
Laurence Olivier had Kenneth Tynan as Associate, Literary Manager. Similarly, Rufus Norris has Ben Power as Associate, Head of New Work Department. The theatre-making process now is different from then, and Rufus Norris is a far superior director to Laurence Olivier, but a senior Associate providing dramaturgical support to the artistic director was and is present then and now. However, and far more importantly, Olivier was a better producer than Norris. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 16:50:43 GMT
If I'm honest I feel the reveiw are too harsh. Yes this is not a perfect or the best show but the production for me was quite visually exciting and I have seen much worse shows that critics loved. I feel this play is a 3stars and I feel this does not deserve so many one star reviews. I also like how the national out in such different shows as it will bring many different audiences and if they domt try andything new and different they they will just do the same old plays and that is not what the national theatre does. I think it is a myth that the NT attracts different audiences to different shows, I think overwhelmingly it is the same audience. Yes I agree Same persons you see again and again Also the number of papered shows at the NT Has sky rocketed in the last 2 years |
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jun 7, 2017 16:51:58 GMT
Hytner had Greenland, Damned by Despair etc etc., anyone who has a selective memory is pretty worthless as a judge of anything.
Additionally, anyone who thinks Oxbridge means something in this day and age isn't worth listening to. Our most most consistent (arguably) director went to 'one of the three great universities' and it was neither Oxford or Cambridge. The RSC, by the way, hasn't had an Oxbridge AD since 1986.
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Post by Jan on Jun 7, 2017 16:54:50 GMT
I think it is a myth that the NT attracts different audiences to different shows, I think overwhelmingly it is the same audience. Yes I agree Same persons you see again and again Also the number of papered shows at the NT Has sky rocketed in the last 2 years Actually I think Norris' s programming is narrowing the audience to people who are like himself. Do you think he ever employs a director or writer who significantly disagrees with him or who has a different viewpoint ? Olivier and Peter Hall did. |
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Post by jek on Jun 7, 2017 16:55:35 GMT
Just back from the matinee and my overwhelming feeling is of sorrow for something that could have been good but somehow misses the mark. The period of history (on which the programme is excellent) and themes are fascinating and just occasionally you get a glimpse of what the play might have been. But, as so many others have said, it just doesn't hold together. There is definitely something about the flow of the language that makes it difficult to follow at all times. But there are some visual treats - Anne-Marie Duff is particularly wonderful when dancing in the party scene.
Was it worth £34 of my money? Probably not. But I'm glad something this ambitious was attempted.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:00:20 GMT
Just back from the matinee and my overwhelming feeling is of sorrow for something that could have been good but somehow misses the mark. The period of history (on which the programme is excellent) and themes are fascinating and just occasionally you get a glimpse of what the play might have been. But, as so many others have said, it just doesn't hold together. There is definitely something about the flow of the language that makes it difficult to follow at all times. But there are some visual treats - Anne-Marie Duff is particularly wonderful when dancing in the party scene. Was it worth £34 of my money? Probably not. But I'm glad something this ambitious was attempted. This country loves papering over the cracks Doesn't it |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:01:40 GMT
Hytner had Greenland, Damned by Despair etc etc., anyone who has a selective memory is pretty worthless as a judge of anything. Additionally, anyone who thinks Oxbridge means something in this day and age isn't worth listening to. Our most most consistent (arguably) director went to 'one of the three great universities' and it was neither Oxford or Cambridge. The RSC, by the way, hasn't had an Oxbridge AD since 1986. And the RSC are really pushing the boundaries Aren't they 3/4 of the London Roman season unsold |
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jun 7, 2017 17:08:13 GMT
Selective and/or lack of memory, snobbery, seeing the world in black and white, anger issues exacerbated by posting on the internet....
Are you absolutely sure you aren't Donald Trump?
Anyway, if you feel as though you want to start sharing secrets with some Russians don't forget to give us the heads up.
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Post by martin1965 on Jun 7, 2017 17:51:40 GMT
If I'm honest I feel the reveiw are too harsh. Yes this is not a perfect or the best show but the production for me was quite visually exciting and I have seen much worse shows that critics loved. I feel this play is a 3stars and I feel this does not deserve so many one star reviews. I also like how the national out in such different shows as it will bring many different audiences and if they domt try andything new and different they they will just do the same old plays and that is not what the national theatre does. I think it is a myth that the NT attracts different audiences to different shows, I think overwhelmingly it is the same audience. Defo Jan! Same for RSC in my experience |
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