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Post by dontdreamit on Aug 28, 2019 8:07:28 GMT
One more episode to go... with the advent of box set watching, it’s really good to have to wait between episodes, especially as there an generally very thought provoking.
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Post by peggs on Aug 28, 2019 21:16:38 GMT
Isn't the Canadian detention centre rather nice! I mean, I've stayed in hotels which have less attractive views from the windows. I thought that too, most lovely even if you do need to get your pizza as take out.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Sept 2, 2019 11:23:57 GMT
The thing is that such regimes seem rock solid, yet small cracks start to appear and, when these reach critical mass, their destruction is unstoppable. When they fall it can result in terrible loss of life yet at other times it is done almost peacefully. I think we can guess which one this will be.
As well as the inexorable appearance of those cracks this season, slowly and step by step, I think what it has also done well is to not create heroes and villains, there are so many shades in between for these characters, even June. Commander Lawrence has been a great catalyst, I think there's a lot more to come from him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 12:42:58 GMT
] As well as the inexorable appearance of those cracks this season, slowly and step by step, I think what it has also done well is to not create heroes and villains, there are so many shades in between for these characters, even June. Commander Lawrence has been a great catalyst, I think there's a lot more to come from him. I do hope so, because I’ve really enjoyed Whitford’s performance, but it’s not looking good for him. Mind you, I don’t see how Gilead can punish anyone involved in the escape without decimating the existing, popular cast. So he may yet find away out of it...
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Post by d'James on Sept 2, 2019 13:13:08 GMT
I really don’t think the show should go on too much longer. The fact June is still alive is unbelievable. One, maybe two more season(s) would be enough.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 2, 2019 15:04:08 GMT
I agree one more season should wrap it up, unless they really can move away from the current core. There is indeed only so many times everybody can avoid the wall. And how many more close ups of June's face the viewer can endure.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Sept 2, 2019 16:57:55 GMT
I agree one more season should wrap it up, unless they really can move away from the current core. There is indeed only so many times everybody can avoid the wall. I was thinking that next season is going to be the underground guerilla war and one more after that to cover the regime collapsing.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 2, 2019 17:09:42 GMT
Reminded me of The Inn of the 6th happiness (for those old enough to remember it). I was expecting them to start singing "This old man" at any minute.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Sept 3, 2019 12:16:28 GMT
Loved this episode, the chummy Serena and the Canadian guy that got very frosty when she got chucked under the bus .... Interesting to see the scenes from what would have been the capture of June. A feisty Janine!
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Post by peggs on Sept 4, 2019 20:34:13 GMT
I found watching this episode a bit like watching certain plays when you know it isn't all going to end well but really hope it will anyway. Love Commander Lawrence character, this season has for me but much better than the previous one and I shed no tears at the current fate of the Waterfords.
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Post by sf on Sept 11, 2019 15:34:38 GMT
Was anyone else at the Lyttelton last night? Or indeed in the cinema? Great fun - and AUNT LYDIA was there! Amazing actor - she went from being far more relaxed and slighter in real life to the scary, dumpy harridan just by raising her head and staring down her nose. In a split second. And she scared the c*ap out of Sally Hawkins, Lily James and all of us on that side of the auditorium when she did it. More on my blog about the whole thing if anyone wants to read. I wasn't there, but I'm reading the book... and I imagine Anne Dowd is keeping her fingers and toes crossed that the sequel is adapted for television too, because there's one hell of a role for her if it is.
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Post by dontdreamit on Sept 23, 2019 16:45:40 GMT
Finished the book. Figured out the entire plot by page 19. Also it has now pretty much stuffed the TV series, depriving it of almost all the drama regarding June and her daughters, and also Aunt Lydia. Maybe there is space to just explore what happens to the Commanders and how Gilead falls, but otherwise, well, we now know how it all works out. [b ] It’s almost as if she saw the direction the tv show was going in and decided that she could write it better. Which t be fair she probably did!
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Post by sf on Sept 25, 2019 10:08:50 GMT
Finished the book. Figured out the entire plot by page 19. Also it has now pretty much stuffed the TV series, depriving it of almost all the drama regarding June and her daughters, and also Aunt Lydia. Maybe there is space to just explore what happens to the Commanders and how Gilead falls, but otherwise, well, we now know how it all works out.
Yes and no. Aunt Lydia aside, we mostly don't know exactly how the characters who appeared in The Handmaid's Tale ended up where they are by the end of The Testaments, and there's a lot of ground to explore there. There are also a lot of major characters in the TV series - Moira, Emily, the Waterfords - who aren't referenced in The Testaments at all, and it's clear that in the decade-and-a-half between the end of the most recent season of the TV series and the start of The Testaments the Gilead regime has become (even) more corrupt, and that the regime's grip on power becomes less secure.
The Testaments also opens up space to explore what life is like in those parts of Gilead that are away from the major centres of power - we see some of that in the last quarter of the novel, and it opens up some interesting possibilities.
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Post by sf on Sept 25, 2019 10:56:19 GMT
Oh, but the tension and driver of the show was June getting both her children out of Gilead. We now know that all three of them make it out and are re-united, living happily ever after. Lydia kills herself, Gilead falls.
Sure, the TV series can explore all sorts of things, but the basic tale of what happened to Offred and Gilead is now over. Everything on TV now - for me anyway - is going to just be milling around in that universe.
For me, with no disrespect intended to Elisabeth Moss's extraordinary performance, the most interesting parts of the TV show, more and more, are the scenes where the focus isn't on June.
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Post by peggs on Sept 25, 2019 15:23:19 GMT
Really should have avoided your well labelled spoilers monkey, alas I have no self control. Of course you may now have gifted me time.
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