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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:15:05 GMT
Anyone curious on the ones that were snubbed or forgotten, if any have slipped your mind, these are the productions that received no nominations at all but were eligible: Amélie, A Bronx Tale, Cats, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Cherry Orchard, In Transit, The Encounter, Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Oh Hello, Paramour, Significant Other & Sunset Boulevard.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:23:06 GMT
I feel sorry for Phillipa mainly because she has gone from the biggest hits of the decade to what is turning out to be one of the bigger flops. To be honest, I doubt she minds. She got to be the only star of a show for the first time and has now originated three lead roles currently being played on Broadway (she played Amélie in the workshop before it went to Berkeley with Samantha Barks). At the age of 26, that's ridiculously impressive and something that I believe only Julie Andrews has managed before her. Although I'm sure if she had chosen to do Natasha on Broadway (which I've heard she was offered) she would be on her second Tony nomination in a row.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:24:14 GMT
Anyone curious on the ones that were snubbed or forgotten, if any have slipped your mind, these are the productions that received no nominations at all but were eligible: Amélie, A Bronx Tale, Cats, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Cherry Orchard, In Transit, The Encounter, Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Oh Hello, Paramour, Significant Other & Sunset Boulevard. Only ones I'm surprised at here are Significant Other and Sunset Boulevard.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:35:20 GMT
Hmmmm, well mmmbop, Hamilton Addict and danieljohnson14 that all makes sense but I still think it's sneaky. Anyhoo, it's all about the Ehle for me. And I hope she gives Linney and Nixon a "Ha!" as she glides past to collect her award just to show that that sort of shady Viola Davis behaviour isn't on.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:36:21 GMT
@ryan are you sure you just don't want all the Diva's winning this year? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Patti isn't winning.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:40:32 GMT
@ryan are you sure you just don't want all the Diva's winning this year? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Patti isn't winning. Ha! Much as I love Patti, surely it's got to be all about Bette this year?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:45:39 GMT
@ryan are you sure you just don't want all the Diva's winning this year? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Patti isn't winning. Ha! Much as I love Patti, surely it's got to be all about Bette this year? I mean, lets be honest, Bette has had her name engraved on that Tony the moment the show was announced.
I'd say it is, from what I have heard, in order of chances:
Bette... then Christine, Patti, Denne and then Eva in terms of who will win. But no one is taking that award from Bette!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 2, 2017 16:45:49 GMT
@ryan are you sure you just don't want all the Diva's winning this year? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Patti isn't winning. Ha! Much as I love Patti, surely it's got to be all about Bette this year? Bette is a lock to win, I don't think there's any question of her not winning (well, not that I've heard anyway).
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 16:54:45 GMT
I imagine it will be something like (in my opinion!):
Actor: Andy Karl OR Ben Platt Actress: Bette Midler Featured Actor: Gavin Creel OR Brandon Uranowitz Featured Actress: Rachel Bay Jones OR Stephanie J. Block
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 2, 2017 17:01:45 GMT
Anyone curious on the ones that were snubbed or forgotten, if any have slipped your mind, these are the productions that received no nominations at all but were eligible: Amélie, A Bronx Tale, Cats, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Cherry Orchard, In Transit, The Encounter, Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Oh Hello, Paramour, Significant Other & Sunset Boulevard. The Encounter has already been given a special Tony for sound design.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:03:04 GMT
I think:
Best Actor - Ben Platt Best Actress - Bette Midler Best Featured Actor - Lucas Steele (I'm torn on this because I think they'll want to give Comet an acting win but at the same time Creel is very well liked and almost overdue at this point) Best Featured Actress - Rachel Bay Jones
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 2, 2017 17:03:05 GMT
I imagine it will be something like (in my opinion!): Actor: Andy Karl OR Ben Platt Actress: Bette Midler Featured Actor: Gavin Creel OR Brandon Uranowitz Featured Actress: Rachel Bay Jones OR Stephanie J. Block Ben Platt is more likely to win it, but I still think Andy has a shot. Many people have dismissed this, saying Ben Platt is a lock. However, I don't feel that it is a lock if not everyone has agreed. From what I've read (the forum on BroadwayWorld), the supporting actor race seems to be between Gavin and Lucas Steele. Out of that category, I've only seen Gavin, but I'm rooting for him as I thought he was absolutely terrific!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:07:35 GMT
As much as I love me some Andy K, I don't think his performance is as much of a tour de force as Ben Platt's, which would be a genuinely deserved win.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 17:07:35 GMT
I imagine it will be something like (in my opinion!): Actor: Andy Karl OR Ben Platt Actress: Bette Midler Featured Actor: Gavin Creel OR Brandon Uranowitz Featured Actress: Rachel Bay Jones OR Stephanie J. Block Ben Platt is more likely to win it, but I still think Andy has a shot. Many people have dismissed this, saying Ben Platt is a lock. However, I don't feel that it is a lock if not everyone has agreed. From what I've read (the forum on BroadwayWorld), the supporting actor race seems to be between Gavin and Lucas Steele. Out of that category, I've only seen Gavin, but I'm rooting for him as I thought he was absolutely terrific! I agree, I think Ben is likely, but I wouldn't count out Andy at all. He got tremendous reviews, he is the whole show and never leaves the stage in a physically tough role. Also, the whole injury and still performing on opening night whilst injured will give him great word of mouth too amongst the voters. I do ultimately think it will go to Ben, but if they wanna give Groundhog something, it will be this category. And this is also the only award show Andy is up against Ben I believe other than Drama League, so it looks fairly easy for Andy to pick up the Drama Desk and Outer Critics Award too.
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Post by madsonmelo on May 2, 2017 17:20:38 GMT
Platt and Midler are probably the most hyped performances on Broadway right now (alongside with Metcalf), so I don't think they will lose anything. Platt is also the heart of the show, he's everywhere.
Steele has a real amount of things to do in Comet and he's the best shot for a major award, so it's pretty safe.
Bay Jones has those 20 final minutes of DEH (So Big/So Small).... she's winning.
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Post by eatbigsea on May 2, 2017 18:40:58 GMT
I'm so pleased for Come From Away. I think it has a real shot to take musical, although DEH is of course the front-runner. I have real hopes for CFA to take book as well. Similarly, Rachel Bay Jones is the front-runner for featured actress in a musical, but I would be delighted if Jenn Colella took it.
As for the men, I would be really sad to see Ben Platt lose (I don't think he's going to). As much as I have some issues with DEH, Platt's performance was astonishingly good. For featured actor, I really wasn't all that impressed with Lucas Steele but haven't seen Dolly yet (I'm going this weekend) so will have to reserve judgment.
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Post by 49thand8th on May 2, 2017 18:52:20 GMT
Anyone curious on the ones that were snubbed or forgotten, if any have slipped your mind, these are the productions that received no nominations at all but were eligible: Amélie, A Bronx Tale, Cats, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Cherry Orchard, In Transit, The Encounter, Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Oh Hello, Paramour, Significant Other & Sunset Boulevard. I thought they might throw a bone at Allegiance, but then again, I'm Asian so I should know better.
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Post by viserys on May 2, 2017 19:14:49 GMT
Anyone curious on the ones that were snubbed or forgotten, if any have slipped your mind, these are the productions that received no nominations at all but were eligible: Amélie, A Bronx Tale, Cats, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Cherry Orchard, In Transit, The Encounter, Les Liaisons Dangereuses, Oh Hello, Paramour, Significant Other & Sunset Boulevard. I thought they might throw a bone at Allegiance, but then again, I'm Asian so I should know better. Wasn't Allegiance at least one season earlier?
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Post by 49thand8th on May 2, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
Was it?! I've had a long week and it's only Tuesday! HAHA.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 19:31:49 GMT
Was it?! I've had a long week and it's only Tuesday! HAHA. That's pretty much how long it ran anyway!
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Post by ali973 on May 2, 2017 22:35:37 GMT
Umm..can I just ask a somewhat irrelevant question?
Are there any souvenir brochures (souvenir programs in America!) for Hello, Dolly and Sunset Boulevard?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 22:40:13 GMT
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Post by ali973 on May 2, 2017 22:43:17 GMT
Interesting..it's squared like the Canadian brochure from the '90s! Thank you!
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Post by ali973 on May 2, 2017 22:56:27 GMT
Finally watched the announcements..
It reminded me of a panel that involved Leslie Odom Jr. last year, where everyone was celebrating the diversity in the nominations, and he said that the challenge is to keep this going, etc.
Though plays do better in terms of their diversity, musicals this year are quite poor in all categories sans Best Actress. And we all know that Bette Midler is most likely going to win this- which isn't unfair..but it's just something to take note of following last year's theme.
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Post by Kenneth_C on May 2, 2017 23:19:31 GMT
Random thoughts: I'm glad that Falsettos was remembered, and am particularly happy with the nominations of Stephanie J. Block and Andrew Rannells in same. (Loved Brandon Uranowitz, too, but would give the edge to Rannells.) I realize I'm in the minority, but I don't get all the love shown for The Great Comet. Although I adore her, I probably wouldn't have nominated Patti for War Paint. ( Gasp!) She basically plays the same bitchy note throughout, in an unintelligible accent. They really should've found room for Sunset Blvd. in the Best Revival category. A little more attention could've been paid to The Front Page, too. Although I am not seeing Hello Dolly! until the fall, am happy that Gavin Creel was nominated. He's been so good for so long. I also am not seeing Dear Evan Hansen and Groundhog's Day until then, so cannot choose a side in the big Best Musical/Best (Musical) Actor battles. It's almost criminal that Jon Jon Briones didn't receive a nomination for Miss Saigon. And, while we're on the subject of slights: Gideon Glick, Gideon Glick, Gideon Glick!
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Post by madsonmelo on May 3, 2017 3:55:23 GMT
Creel is indeed overdue, I might be wrong about Steele after all. Poor Anatole!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 7:55:25 GMT
Creel is indeed overdue, I might be wrong about Steele after all. Poor Anatole! Think it will depend how much they like Comet. Danny Burstein was far more overdue than Creel last year (6 time nominee) but couldn't beat out first time nominee Leslie Odom Jr.
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Post by viserys on May 3, 2017 11:10:40 GMT
I realize I'm in the minority, but I don't get all the love shown for The Great Comet. You're not alone there. I am running hot and cold with this show. Part of me thinks it's crazy innovative, fun, entertainment and a very daring approach to one of the greatest literary classics in the world. I'm sure that being part of it all in the theatre must be an amazing night to remember. But in the broad cold daylight I find the music nearly impossible to listen to and it angers me that they picked one of the most banal and daftest parts of War & Peace for something that's more or less a teenage soap opera that doesn't do Pierre (the leading man of the book) any justice while Prince Andrej barely gets a look in. So I dunno. Since I haven't seen it live, I feel it's unfair to judge the show as it seems to be one of those "you have to be there" things. I'd be fine with it winning stuff like stage, lighting, costumes, etc. but I really don't see it winning serious stuff like book or music, let alone best musical.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 11:15:16 GMT
I love Comet for it's staging, and for being a real innovative but fun evening at the theatre. However I agree the music doesn't stand up against others- and I don't think it really will win awards for that aspect. Personally I wouldn't hate it being awarded best musical because I think that should be about the sum of it's parts and it is an experience and a half, and something really original (despite being an adaptation haha) but I doubt it will.
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Post by eatbigsea on May 3, 2017 11:33:44 GMT
I realize I'm in the minority, but I don't get all the love shown for The Great Comet. You're not alone there. I am running hot and cold with this show. Part of me thinks it's crazy innovative, fun, entertainment and a very daring approach to one of the greatest literary classics in the world. I'm sure that being part of it all in the theatre must be an amazing night to remember. But in the broad cold daylight I find the music nearly impossible to listen to and it angers me that they picked one of the most banal and daftest parts of War & Peace for something that's more or less a teenage soap opera that doesn't do Pierre (the leading man of the book) any justice while Prince Andrej barely gets a look in. So I dunno. Since I haven't seen it live, I feel it's unfair to judge the show as it seems to be one of those "you have to be there" things. I'd be fine with it winning stuff like stage, lighting, costumes, etc. but I really don't see it winning serious stuff like book or music, let alone best musical. I couldn't agree with you more, and I've seen it live. It's truly an amazing spectacle, and it deserves all the technical awards it is (probably) going to win, but not the big guns. Josh Groban does a great job playing Pierre, but the character seems like someone out of a completely different story (which he doesn't, obviously, in the entire book). The leading man of the story in Great Comet is essentially Anatole, which is bonkers to me. That bit of War and Peace works in the context of the entire story, but taken out of that you're absolutely right that it's a teenage soap opera.
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