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Post by 49thand8th on Oct 31, 2018 15:41:36 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Oct 31, 2018 16:41:54 GMT
They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 31, 2018 16:42:58 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship. Pretty much what one lady said to me last night when we were waiting to pick up tickets for the Hiddles talk - that she wanted to know who he really is. In other words, she wants to be his friend.
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Post by kathryn on Oct 31, 2018 16:55:30 GMT
They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards. Oh, it's quite common for people to do that. It's partly wanting to feel close to the person they're a fan of, and partly (with the very famous) because friends and employees often post about stuff that the person themselves would keep locked down. There are Beyonce superfans who worked out she was about to do a surprise album release by following her regular make-up artist, dancers, etc on social media.
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Post by daisy24601 on Oct 31, 2018 20:40:41 GMT
It's the desire to quantify a relationship, and to try to turn fanship into friendship. I was my best friend last night (famous within the theatre world but not at all outside of it) and I ended up standing next to the taxi waiting to go back to his house for about 15 minutes because two of his fans who come to see everything he does were so determined to get more than the "standard fan" amount of interaction. And ignored him point blank saying "okay thanks for coming, lovely to see you again, I should catch up with my friends now" about three times. Or only heard "thanks for coming, lovely to see you again." They all follow me on Twitter and from what I've seen, they obviously think they're genuinely friends with him. The thing is they are really nice. Fans are nearly always really nice. They're nice to me, even though they clearly think they know him better than I do. But a lot of them just don't get that being a fan or super fan doesn't equate to friendship. It doesn't matter how many times you stage door someone or how many lovely chats you have, even if a celeb genuinely appreciates your support and enjoys talking to you (and many celebs DO enjoy and appreciate it) you aren't friends and never will be. There's this weird attitude within fandom that if you manage to 'land' 10 minutes of chat with someone it somehow means you know them better or have a closer relationship than the fan who only got 1 minute of chat. When the person who chatted for 1 minute and politely saw that it wasn't the time for a longer conversation probably left a better impression. I think this is exactly it. There is a certain level of competition between fans on who can find out things about a person by chatting to them that other fans don't know. It's actually put me off the whole thing with one person in particular I like. I do actually like being a fan of one or two musical theatre people because they don't have that many fans so it's not too crazy!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 23:55:41 GMT
At the Gielgud's stage door tonight, when George Blagden came out, one girl said "nah, don't like him at all", making sure he heard it. What an idiot. That poor guy's face...
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 1, 2018 6:16:14 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her!
What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 7:43:35 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her! What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then? I was expecting it to be quiet, maybe 10 people, but we were around 40. I was probably the oldest (30yo) which was surprising. I never imagined this show would attract the teenage fangirls (aren't they supposed to be at the Royal Haymarket?).
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Post by Steffi on Nov 1, 2018 10:43:10 GMT
Do they follow you on Twitter just because you're friends with the actor they're a fan of? Following an actor on social media, fine, but to follow the actor's friends - unless the friends are also actors who they follow because they are also fans of them - seems a bit odd even by social media standards. Oh, it's quite common for people to do that. It's partly wanting to feel close to the person they're a fan of, and partly (with the very famous) because friends and employees often post about stuff that the person themselves would keep locked down. There are Beyonce superfans who worked out she was about to do a surprise album release by following her regular make-up artist, dancers, etc on social media. I have a few Twitter followers who only started following me after they found out I’m friends with one if their favourite performers (no one famous). I don’t mind, my Twitter is public and I don’t post confidential or private info anyway. But I don’t really see the point either. On the other hand I know fans of another performer I’m close to (again, no one famous but with quite a dedicated fan base) follow me on Twitter even though they make no secret out of the fact they can’t stand me. I swear I was never rude to them - most of them have never even talked to me. Again, I don’t mind but I think they‘d be better off just ignoring me. :-)
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Post by kathryn on Nov 1, 2018 11:16:56 GMT
When it gets really weird is when people start essentially hate-following girlfriends/partners - and then complain when said people respond to the attention by .... err...taking the piss. I've seen people accused of 'fan-baiting'. Also there's a thing where the stars being followed are expected to denounce their friends/colleagues/employees when fans who have stalked their social media find out something about them they don't like. The 'woke' brigade are particularly intolerant.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 1, 2018 12:34:51 GMT
Good job Patti didn’t hear that, she’d have lamped her! What sort of stage door crowd is Company pulling then? I was expecting it to be quiet, maybe 10 people, but we were around 40. I was probably the oldest (30yo) which was surprising. I never imagined this show would attract the teenage fangirls (aren't they supposed to be at the Royal Haymarket?). The little bleeders are getting everywhere aren’t they? Oh for the days when they restricted their activities to Wicked. I hope no one tries the Nutella trick on Patti. Let alone the microwave, they’ll end up wearing it! I suspect Patti is an old fashioned bouquet kinda gal.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 1, 2018 12:55:47 GMT
Oh yeah, I've got fans who hate me following me. Every time I work with or am even papped with an actor who's Tumblr famous I wake up to a bunch of new Twitter followers who have that actor's photo as their profile pic. I've only got one who's actively unpleasant but a lot just assume that whichever actor they're obsessed with is so objectively amazing that surely anyone who has been anointed by his presence must worship him. I've had fans sent me pages-long messages raving about some TV show I've never heard of that starred an actor I worked with for like a week. Or fans trying to befriend me to get closer to actors I know, which is fun if their Twitter bio says they live in Brazil and they're messaging saying how much they loved something I worked on that had one performance at the Court Upstairs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 13:18:04 GMT
Some performers will have a public and private twitter and a superstar such as Beyoncé will only follow certain people on her twitter. Her make up designer, costume designers are likely to be high profile too so fans may follow them. I've known some big Madonna fans who years later talk on social media with some of her former dancers and share photos etc.
I'd have thought Patti Lupone might have had a more mature fan base or be someone a musical goer who may not normally SD might do so as she is a legend and might not do another West End run for several years if ever.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 1, 2018 14:09:15 GMT
Oh yeah, I've got fans who hate me following me. Every time I work with or am even papped with an actor who's Tumblr famous I wake up to a bunch of new Twitter followers who have that actor's photo as their profile pic. Yes, the face as the profile pic does rather give them away! I'm always surprised that people don't just go through their follower list and mute them all on sight! (Or maybe people do....)
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Post by Roxie on Nov 1, 2018 21:05:57 GMT
Not at stagedoor but on Twitter a particular fan of Linzi Hateley cannot see the connection between her incessant tweets to/about Linzi (at one stage about 100 in a week), and Linzi's decision to take a break from Twitter. This wasn’t me, FYI! 😂 Seriously, I do love me some Linzi H, but she’s not the best thing since sliced bread and the saviour of humanity like this lady was making her out to be. She was saying things like a cast recording with Linzi as Mrs J would go straight to No 1 in every chart and she’d have to fight for tickets when it goes to broadway (it seemed like this was a done deal in her head!) it all got very wierd and she started commenting and liking all of my tweets aswell. Someone just needs to take her off Twitter tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 13:27:03 GMT
Oh yeah, I've got fans who hate me following me. Every time I work with or am even papped with an actor who's Tumblr famous I wake up to a bunch of new Twitter followers who have that actor's photo as their profile pic. Yes, the face as the profile pic does rather give them away! I'm always surprised that people don't just go through their follower list and mute them all on sight! (Or maybe people do....) Tangential but related, I'm blocked by some fan of the Cucumberpatch and I have ZERO idea why. I only know because someone I follow is clearly friends with them and RT's stuff a lot, and I have a morbid curiosity for those links that say 'not available' so I would LOVE LOVE to know how I dishonoured our lord and saviour Cucumberpatch to the degree a fan blocked me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 14:02:46 GMT
And the problem is you probably can't even search your own tweets to see a definitive list of all the things you've ever said about him, because honestly, who even uses the same "Cumberbatch" euphemism more than a handful of times? (My money's on you being shunned for refusing to buy into the "fake wife + fake baby" conspiracy.)
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Nov 5, 2018 20:45:17 GMT
I once had a FB convo with someone where I made a joke about having hot gossip about Cufflesnatch* without realising the FB comments thread was public, and got some verrrry interesting emails.
*He's crap at paraphrasing Shakespeare and falls over a lot. Which is okay gossip but not quite up there with fake babies.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 21:35:43 GMT
And the problem is you probably can't even search your own tweets to see a definitive list of all the things you've ever said about him, because honestly, who even uses the same "Cumberbatch" euphemism more than a handful of times? (My money's on you being shunned for refusing to buy into the "fake wife + fake baby" conspiracy.) Right I mean I have a fondness for Cucumberpatch as a favoured one but one does like to mix it up. And yes clearly I didn’t buy the fake wife really loves Freeman/whatever the latest is.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 5, 2018 21:59:45 GMT
He's crap at paraphrasing Shakespeare and falls over a lot. Which is okay gossip but not quite up there with fake babies. That’s nearly as good as him asking for a staff discount at the NT bookshop when he was there to see Angels in America. Still makes me laugh, that one. Obviously not as dramatic as fake babies....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 7:33:49 GMT
He's crap at paraphrasing Shakespeare and falls over a lot. Which is okay gossip but not quite up there with fake babies. That’s nearly as good as him asking for a staff discount at the NT bookshop when he was there to see Angels in America. Still makes me laugh, that one. Obviously not as dramatic as fake babies.... Ooh maybe it was the story of me (metaphorically) shoving him out of the way in the NT foyer to get to Marianne? Look Caterpillarpatch I don’t see you in any of her plays so I?
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Post by Xanderl on Nov 6, 2018 9:43:42 GMT
Off-topic but related to twitter dramas - had some bizzareness on my timeline with two people who followed me within minutes of each other a few weeks ago, then proceeded to have massive rows with each other over twitter, accuse each other of blocking them, etc etc. Due to the similarity in their styles and the fact they followed me at the same time I suspect they are actually the same person.
Ended up muting them "both" as I couldn't cope with the drama.
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Post by kimbahorel on Nov 6, 2018 9:57:15 GMT
Off-topic but related to twitter dramas - had some bizzareness on my timeline with two people who followed me within minutes of each other a few weeks ago, then proceeded to have massive rows with each other over twitter, accuse each other of blocking them, etc etc. Due to the similarity in their styles and the fact they followed me at the same time I suspect they are actually the same person. Ended up muting them "both" as I couldn't cope with the drama. That's so weird!! There is a woman on twitter who (I have blocked) who spent time either subtweeting (really horrible stuff about people) or talking to herself in her roleplay accounts. Sometimes I think in these case people want attention and when they don't get it they start following people in the hope they get attention.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 0:52:19 GMT
I've known people use "good guy" and "bad guy" twitter accounts to speak to people not necessarily famous. They insult someone then defend them hoping defending tweets/posts gets them favour.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 7, 2018 9:57:59 GMT
To be fair, that just doesn't happen on Twitter! Sock puppets have been around probably since the dawn of the internet. I can certainly recall people being caught on the old WOS forum doing it.
Twitter's mute function is a thing of joy - people have no idea that you've tuned them out so they can just keep arguing with themselves pointlessly while everyone else gets on with their day.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 10:34:01 GMT
I've known people use "good guy" and "bad guy" twitter accounts to speak to people not necessarily famous. They insult someone then defend them hoping defending tweets/posts gets them favour. That is IN.SANE.
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Post by jaqs on Nov 7, 2018 14:24:06 GMT
Who has the time or energy? I'd get them mixed up within half an hour and it would be game over.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 7, 2018 15:03:43 GMT
Who has the time or energy? I'd get them mixed up within half an hour and it would be game over. If I recall correctly, the time someone got rumbled doing it on the WOS board it was because he'd used the account being attacked to 'like' the post by the person doing the attacking, not realising that people using browsers could see exactly who 'liked' what. Most people's posting styles are pretty distinctive - I'm not a good enough writer to fake being someone else!
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Post by steve10086 on Nov 7, 2018 17:30:41 GMT
I’m still trying to master being myself, let alone someone else too!
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Post by Roxie on Nov 7, 2018 18:15:53 GMT
Who on earth has time to manage two twitter accounts and ‘argue’ with each other!? Also it’s a bit wierd and I think symptomatic of some kinda personality disorder.
What bugs me is the sense of ENTITLEMENT some people have! And not just fans with stars, as a woman I’ve been on the receiving end of anger from many a man if I’ve politely dismissed him. A friend was telling me about someone she blocked on Instagram after he became angry when she told him he was sending her too many messages and making her uncomfortable. The dude then set up a new insta account so he could continue to message her. This sh*t is NOT OK!!
Just because you’ve watched someone in a show, or paid them a compliment, or sent them a nice message, doesn’t mean they owe you any of their time and attention!! Honestly, it makes me cross!! If someone you have no relationship with, opts to speak to you and give you some of their time - great! Bonus! How kind of them! If they opt not to, build a bridge and get over it. Stop being so bloody entitled everyone. Rant over.
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