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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 14, 2017 8:30:22 GMT
Also, someone recently was chatting to me and called Evita underrated. I just had to disagree, if anything, I think it is a bit overrated! Like Wicked?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 8:43:28 GMT
Also, someone recently was chatting to me and called Evita underrated. I just had to disagree, if anything, I think it is a bit overrated! Like Wicked? Well no, that's what I mean, its an opinion. I think this is a bit overrated, some may think Wicked is overrated, that's fine.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 14, 2017 8:56:18 GMT
It is indeed just a question of taste. Evita does seem to find new audiences as it ages so it's appealing to new people on some level. Will Wicked be running after 40 years? Seems unlikely just given the nature of the production, unless some hideous low budget version was rolled out to tour every couple of years.
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Post by danb on May 14, 2017 9:03:39 GMT
It is indeed just a question of taste. Evita does seem to find new audiences as it ages so it's appealing to new people on some level. Will Wicked be running after 40 years? Seems unlikely just given the nature of the production, unless some hideous low budget version was rolled out to tour every couple of years. Cue Glinda lowered on a coathanger while someone blows bubbles next to her. Elphaba holding her anorak up behind her 'a la schoolboys running around the playground pretending to fly' in DG.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 9:04:34 GMT
It is indeed just a question of taste. Evita does seem to find new audiences as it ages so it's appealing to new people on some level. Will Wicked be running after 40 years? Seems unlikely just given the nature of the production, unless some hideous low budget version was rolled out to tour every couple of years. In London, no it won't be running in 40 years I wouldn't imagine (although I'm pretty sure we will be a revival or two down the line then haha), but I think Hamilton nearby will see a small boost, and the film will have a Les Mis film style boost. The 10th Anniversary has had a positive effect on their box office too after a bit of a lull the year or two prior, it isn't going anywhere for a while yet. The same cannot be said for the Broadway production, which still sells out most performances and is, pretty much every week, in the Top 5 highest grossing shows on Broadway, making between 1 and 2 million a week. It definitely will close in London before it closes in New York.
But I agree, Evita is finding more audiences as it has aged and we will no doubt see another major revival of the show, probably in the next few years. When was the last West End revival of Evita, if we don't include the touring production that went into the Dominion?
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Post by danb on May 14, 2017 9:08:29 GMT
2006 at the Adelphi
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 14, 2017 9:18:02 GMT
A friend of mine saw that and said it was hideous, design-wise.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 9:40:06 GMT
Oh yes! And wasn't that the production that transferred to Broadway? I didn't see it, but I heard some really weren't a fan of the woman playing Eva, and wasn't it a success on Broadway mainly because of Ricky Martin?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 10:11:53 GMT
Oh yes! And wasn't that the production that transferred to Broadway? I didn't see it, but I heard some really weren't a fan of the woman playing Eva, and wasn't it a success on Broadway mainly because of Ricky Martin? Elena Roger? She was incredible!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 11:59:56 GMT
Yeah i found the Adelphi production a massive disappointment. Basic direction, hammy acting (especially from Philip Quast as Peron), the static set while pretty didnt help make the production come alive. The Kenwright production is an improvement
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Post by daniel on May 14, 2017 12:08:34 GMT
Yeah i found the Adelphi production a massive disappointment. Basic direction, hammy acting (especially from Philip Quast as Peron), the static set while pretty didnt help make the production come alive. The Kenwright production is an improvement Well there's a first time for everything
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Post by richey on May 14, 2017 14:56:01 GMT
Elphaba holding her anorak up behind her 'a la schoolboys running around the playground pretending to fly' in DG. There's a drag artist on Canal Street already doing this in Manchester. Stood on a stool, flying on a mop..
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Post by danb on May 14, 2017 15:20:28 GMT
There's a drag artist on Canal Street already doing this in Manchester. Stood on a stool, flying on a mop.. Great minds eh
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Post by showbizkid on May 15, 2017 7:33:13 GMT
Yeah i found the Adelphi production a massive disappointment. Basic direction, hammy acting (especially from Philip Quast as Peron), the static set while pretty didnt help make the production come alive. The Kenwright production is an improvement Well there's a first time for everything Set aside I thought Kenwright's Whistle Down The Wind was creatively better the the Aldwych version.
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Post by Sue on May 15, 2017 21:18:47 GMT
You won't regret it, just you see! How'd you mean? If you do need to book flights in order to see this then I think/hope you'll find its worth it! (Or did I get the wrong end of the stick?! 😕)
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Post by AliceFearnFan2212 on May 15, 2017 23:47:58 GMT
How'd you mean? If you do need to book flights in order to see this then I think/hope you'll find its worth it! (Or did I get the wrong end of the stick?! 😕) Ohhh aha, I've seen this tour numerous of times aha, big fan of the show and of course Emma Hatton herself I just wanna be at closing night that's all aha
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Post by d'James on May 25, 2017 13:47:34 GMT
Saw this last night. Never seen it before apart from the film which was years ago.
The show itself is quite good but definitely not my favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber.
I liked the actor playing Che a lot. I quite liked the actress playing Eva but I didn't like some of her acting choices (perhaps direction) as I found it way too over the top. She struggled with some of the higher notes but mostly I liked her voice enough.
I found the ending of the show very abrupt and odd.
I will be buying the soundtrack (despite not liking all the songs), so any recommendations of which version to buy?!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 13:51:05 GMT
Saw this last night. Never seen it before apart from the film which was years ago. The show itself is quite good but definitely not my favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber. I liked the actor playing Che a lot. I quite liked the actress playing Eva but I didn't like some of her acting choices (perhaps direction) as I found it way too over the top. She struggled with some of the higher notes but mostly I liked her voice enough. I found the ending of the show very abrupt and odd. I will be buying the soundtrack (despite not liking all the songs), so any recommendations of which version to buy?! That was my main issue, Emma really struggled a bit with the high notes and key changes, she had these issues in Wicked too, but otherwise I really liked her portrayal.
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Post by LaLuPone on May 25, 2017 13:53:38 GMT
Saw this last night. Never seen it before apart from the film which was years ago. The show itself is quite good but definitely not my favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber. I liked the actor playing Che a lot. I quite liked the actress playing Eva but I didn't like some of her acting choices (perhaps direction) as I found it way too over the top. She struggled with some of the higher notes but mostly I liked her voice enough. I found the ending of the show very abrupt and odd. I will be buying the soundtrack (despite not liking all the songs), so any recommendations of which version to buy?! I haven't listened to the revival recording but I don't think you can beat Elaine Paige and the Original London Recording.
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Post by d'James on May 25, 2017 13:56:50 GMT
Saw this last night. Never seen it before apart from the film which was years ago. The show itself is quite good but definitely not my favourite Andrew Lloyd Webber. I liked the actor playing Che a lot. I quite liked the actress playing Eva but I didn't like some of her acting choices (perhaps direction) as I found it way too over the top. She struggled with some of the higher notes but mostly I liked her voice enough. I found the ending of the show very abrupt and odd. I will be buying the soundtrack (despite not liking all the songs), so any recommendations of which version to buy?! I haven't listened to the revival recording but I don't think you can beat Elaine Paige and the Original London Recording. Thanks. That doesn't have as many tracks as other recordings so I'd rather get one with more. How about the one with Julie Covington?
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Post by LaLuPone on May 25, 2017 13:59:17 GMT
I haven't listened to the revival recording but I don't think you can beat Elaine Paige and the Original London Recording. Thanks. That doesn't have as many tracks as other recordings so I'd rather get one with more. How about the one with Julie Covington? Haven't listened to that one either sorry 😂 I just picked the Elaine Paige one because Elaine Paige (can you tell I quite like Elaine Paige? 😂) But I think the concept album with Julie Covington is probably a good shout if you want the whole score
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Post by d'James on May 25, 2017 14:03:15 GMT
Thanks. That doesn't have as many tracks as other recordings so I'd rather get one with more. How about the one with Julie Covington? Haven't listened to that one either sorry 😂 I just picked the Elaine Paige one because Elaine Paige (can you tell I quite like Elaine Paige? 😂) But I think the concept album with Julie Covington is probably a good shout if you want the whole score Haha. Fair enough. I'm leaning towards that one, unless anyone feels particularly strongly about the more recent ones??!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 14:33:52 GMT
Thanks. That doesn't have as many tracks as other recordings so I'd rather get one with more. How about the one with Julie Covington? I know she doesn't have the power of Paige and Patti and her voice is a bit of an acquired taste, plus the songs on the concept album aren't necessarily my favourite arrangements either but I do actually think La Covington is my favourite Evita.
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Post by d'James on May 25, 2017 14:40:07 GMT
Thanks. That doesn't have as many tracks as other recordings so I'd rather get one with more. How about the one with Julie Covington? I know she doesn't have the power of Paige and Patti and her voice is a bit of an acquired taste, plus the songs on the concept album aren't necessarily my favourite arrangements either but I do actually think La Covington is my favourite Evita. Thanks @ryan. Anyone got any opinions about the Elena Roger recordings??
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Post by d'James on May 25, 2017 23:08:12 GMT
Forgot to mention some quite wobbly spotlight work on Wednesday night.
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Post by Oleanna on May 26, 2017 0:14:35 GMT
I think the American Premiere Recording is the definitive recording of this score (as it appears onstage. The original concept album is great for other reasons).
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Post by SageStageMgr on May 26, 2017 6:58:11 GMT
Forgot to mention some quite wobbly spotlight work on Wednesday night. Likely a dep, new to the show, possibly a student, probably trying their best. I've only f/spotted a few shows and I absolutely hate it.
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Post by d'James on May 26, 2017 13:45:36 GMT
Forgot to mention some quite wobbly spotlight work on Wednesday night. Likely a dep, new to the show, possibly a student, probably trying their best. Hmmm. Still very distracting. Never had it before.
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Post by d'James on May 26, 2017 13:46:57 GMT
I think the American Premiere Recording is the definitive recording of this score (as it appears onstage. The original concept album is great for other reasons). I'm allergic to Patti LuPone so that one's definitely not for me, but that is for the suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 16:44:22 GMT
I know she doesn't have the power of Paige and Patti and her voice is a bit of an acquired taste, plus the songs on the concept album aren't necessarily my favourite arrangements either but I do actually think La Covington is my favourite Evita. Thanks @ryan . Anyone got any opinions about the Elena Roger recordings?? So the second Elena Roger recording is the Broadway one, also with Ricky Martin and is a double CD of the entire show. For me this one is definitive as it's complete (the 1st complete recording since the Patti one in the 70s?), up to date and has the ALW/David Cullen orchestrations which the current tour has adapted for the worse. I also like Elena Roger's voice and saw her many times at the Adelphi. I also really like Ricky Martin's voice. Apparently onstage his acting wasn't amazing. Though he's so hot I doubt it mattered.
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