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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 21:05:18 GMT
She needs to avoid stadia
Along with Rhianna and many others who are deluded
Terrible let down
Left half way through
The show does now flow at all
Horrible gaps and silence clumsy choreography with dancers just walking off stage casually after a vigorous number
After lauding her so much
I take it back
Excellent singer and dancer
Just does not connect in a venue this large and the show has hardly had any effort expended on it either
Nothing like a Madonna show
And it reeks of a sad time for live music
Also I don't think God wants to see her not insubstantial arse in a tacky gold leotard
As she proclaims she cares what he thinks so much
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Post by infofreako on Jul 3, 2016 21:28:27 GMT
I stuck it out. It didnt improve.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 21:47:43 GMT
I stuck it out. It didnt improve. A stadium for a solo artist is a MASSIVE ask It's no discredit to Beyoncé I have see her in arena and she is enthralling Even Madonna struggles in big venues But you need a band to make a stadium show A solo artist needs spectacle Legions of dancers and innovation Madonna does something different with her songs every tour To pique interest And her dancers are often worthy seeing alone But there was none of this tonight It was so upsetting Had a lovely view but most of the songs were truncated to the extent they were meaningless I feel so hopeless That even the current flavour of the month and biggest artist in the world can't deliver the goods
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Post by infofreako on Jul 3, 2016 21:49:39 GMT
The truncating of songs seems to be an infuriating r and b/hip hop thing. An arena show with her playing the full songs would be far better
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 21:51:46 GMT
The truncating of songs seems to be an infuriating r and b/hip hop thing. An arena show with her playing the full songs would be far better As I said It's our mistake for seeing a stadium show Even sticky and sweet (Madonna) was a sore let down And I still think Beyoncé at the O2 was the best concert I have ever seen Touching unexpected Vocally outstanding And moving
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jul 3, 2016 21:56:20 GMT
Context is everything.
Where did you see this?
On Thursday, on my regular walk home from the theatre, I had to struggle through the Beyonce fanthrong emerging from the Principality Stadium.
Then the next night, on the same walk home, I had to struggle through the victorious Wales v Belgium Euro crowd emerging from the Coopers Field Fanzone.
The Beyonce fans were much more pleasant and civilised.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 21:58:51 GMT
Context is everything. Where did you see this? On Thursday, on my regular walk home from the theatre, I had to struggle through the Beyonce fanthrong emerging from the Principality Stadium. Then the next night, on the same walk home, I had to struggle through the victorious Wales v Belgium Euro crowd emerging from the Coopers Field Fanzone. The Beyonce fans were much more pleasant and civilised. Wembley stadium She is stupid Beyoncé Could have sold out 6-7-8 nights at O2 Instead of a 2nd NOT sold out night at a sports venue The Beyoncé fans are about 20 years old They buy her clothing line Made in China and with logos stamped on the front Their mothers and fathers paid for their concert ticket As they themselves earn the minimum wage And will always rent a property And have no ambition That's likely why
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Post by infofreako on Jul 3, 2016 22:02:41 GMT
Im not sure this current show would work in an arena even, the previous tour was brilliant.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 22:04:45 GMT
Im not sure this current show would work in an arena even, the previous tour was brilliant. Wish I had met you Might had stayed! Yes at her last tour left feeling all warm and cosy It was almost like a musical the way she engaged with the audience connecting with each and every audience member like it was the old school "evening with" and many people were crying
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 22:11:46 GMT
Even the visuals were pathetic
No proper effort to tie any of the show into a coherent whole
On a plus note
The staff at Wembley Stadium are AMAZING
Really friendly and professional
It's just a shame so many people are involved
For such a sh*t show
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Post by infofreako on Jul 3, 2016 22:36:55 GMT
I thought the set as a whole was lacking. It didnt scream out stadium spectacular at all and if it was meant to knit together as a show it failed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 22:42:05 GMT
I thought the set as a whole was lacking. It didnt scream out stadium spectacular at all and if it was meant to knit together as a show it failed. Es Devlin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 22:42:51 GMT
God
And the lighting was awful
Bend It Like Beckham had better effects
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Post by infofreako on Jul 3, 2016 22:45:39 GMT
I thought the set as a whole was lacking. It didnt scream out stadium spectacular at all and if it was meant to knit together as a show it failed. Es Devlin I loved what she created for the pet shop boys pandemonium tour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 22:50:57 GMT
I loved what she created for the pet shop boys pandemonium tour. We must rest now A shame it was a let down I commiserate for us But let's hope for good fortune in the next show we see
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 7:59:08 GMT
Context is everything. Where did you see this? On Thursday, on my regular walk home from the theatre, I had to struggle through the Beyonce fanthrong emerging from the Principality Stadium. Then the next night, on the same walk home, I had to struggle through the victorious Wales v Belgium Euro crowd emerging from the Coopers Field Fanzone. The Beyonce fans were much more pleasant and civilised. Wembley stadium She is stupid Beyoncé Could have sold out 6-7-8 nights at O2 Instead of a 2nd NOT sold out night at a sports venue The Beyoncé fans are about 20 years old They buy her clothing line Made in China and with logos stamped on the front Their mothers and fathers paid for their concert ticket As they themselves earn the minimum wage And will always rent a property And have no ambition That's likely why I hate to derail Beyonce talk...but I severely doubt Beyonce is the reason 20 year olds (or even us 30 something year olds) will never own a property... I'll also give you a clue: it's not through lack of ambition either.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 4, 2016 9:39:31 GMT
I wouldn't go to see ANYone at a stadium. I don't care who it is, I think it's completely pointless.
Sticky and Sweet was fabulous in the arena but I suspect that was because we were at the front. We were near the front for Rebel Heart too but of course she decided to play much of the show on the heart stage behind our backs. And being hearded into pens where you're not allowed to move 4 inches outside of your designated seat space (which you've paid a large amount of money for) by miserable security staff who obviously don't like music
The whole arena/stadium gig things hugely depressing I think.
Beyonce is at the Etihad in Manchester tomorrow. Happy to not be there. Families eating chips. Yuk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 9:45:52 GMT
Agreed! I have a fairly low tolerence of large arena gigs, but make the exception for people I really love. But statium gigs? no thank you! I really don't see the appeal of sitting so far away all you see is a dot, and all you hear is the crowd around you tunelessly belting out the songs rather than the artist you paid to see.
Then there's the general chaos of getting in and out-most of Cardiff city centre was shut down for the gig, utter chaos!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 10:02:21 GMT
I wouldn't go to see ANYone at a stadium. I don't care who it is, I think it's completely pointless. Sticky and Sweet was fabulous in the arena but I suspect that was because we were at the front. We were near the front for Rebel Heart too but of course she decided to play much of the show on the heart stage behind our backs. And being hearded into pens where you're not allowed to move 4 inches outside of your designated seat space (which you've paid a large amount of money for) by miserable security staff who obviously don't like music The whole arena/stadium gig things hugely depressing I think. Beyonce is at the Etihad in Manchester tomorrow. Happy to not be there. Families eating chips. Yuk. Confessions at Wembley Arena was AMAZING The whole concept, music and space worked so well Yes Sticky and Sweet was also fabulous in the O2 but not at Wembley Stadium
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 10:03:58 GMT
Agreed! I have a fairly low tolerence of large arena gigs, but make the exception for people I really love. But statium gigs? no thank you! I really don't see the appeal of sitting so far away all you see is a dot, and all you hear is the crowd around you tunelessly belting out the songs rather than the artist you paid to see. Then there's the general chaos of getting in and out-most of Cardiff city centre was shut down for the gig, utter chaos! I was within 20 metres of the stage with loads of space all around And I still was not impressed She just does not have what it takes to ignite a crowd that big She seemed pathetically small in fact in so many ways Mainly because the production values were abysmal
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Post by Michael on Jul 4, 2016 10:05:22 GMT
I still have no idea who this Beyonce is you're all talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 10:05:39 GMT
Wembley stadium She is stupid Beyoncé Could have sold out 6-7-8 nights at O2 Instead of a 2nd NOT sold out night at a sports venue The Beyoncé fans are about 20 years old They buy her clothing line Made in China and with logos stamped on the front Their mothers and fathers paid for their concert ticket As they themselves earn the minimum wage And will always rent a property And have no ambition That's likely why I hate to derail Beyonce talk...but I severely doubt Beyonce is the reason 20 year olds (or even us 30 something year olds) will never own a property... I'll also give you a clue: it's not through lack of ambition either. I refer to the attitude that people nowadays think that spending £100 upwards on a concert ticket is appropriate when this probably amounts to the best part of their daily pay
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 10:16:17 GMT
Fair enough Parsely (on both posts you quoted me in, too messy to try and quote back at you)
Personally not much of a Beyonce fan so couldn't comment on whether she was better or worse this time around!
And I get where you're coming from re: ambition etc, even if I don't entierly agreee. BUT please do point me towards the minimum wage job (or any job) where I might earn upwards of £100 a day!
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Post by vdcni on Jul 5, 2016 7:11:29 GMT
I quite liked it despite not being much of a Beyonce fan. It helped standing at the front though, I don't know what it would have been like seated far away. I liked the giant video cube and water dancing though the plywood boxes looked somewhat low rent.
I do agree that she doesn't make the best use of her big hits though. Madonna reinterprets them while someone like Tina Turner, who was great in stadiums, embraces them while Kylie sits somewhere in between. By contrast Beyonce just throws them away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 7:53:11 GMT
I quite liked it despite not being much of a Beyonce fan. It helped standing at the front though, I don't know what it would have been like seated far away. I liked the giant video cube and water dancing though the plywood boxes looked somewhat low rent. I do agree that she doesn't make the best use of her big hits though. Madonna reinterprets them while someone like Tina Turner, who was great in stadiums, embraces them while Kylie sits somewhere in between. By contrast Beyonce just throws them away. Who can forget the amazing versions of Vogue and Music from Sticky and Sweet As well as the mashups she did on Confessions again of Music and Future Lovers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 8:53:57 GMT
I went to the second night at Wembley Stadium to see Beyoncé and I must say, I don't know what show you saw (though I know you tend to hate almost anything unless you have money in it, and even then you turn on it if it flops) but the Formation concert was a brilliant night out! We were in the Gold Circle (the standing area near to the stage) and holy crap it was phenomenal. She sang her ass off, danced incredibly well with a brilliant group of young dancers and I found the staging itself to be really smart. It was simplistic, with just a rotating Box screen that was just about the size of the stadium it seemed, just huge! And a large stage and runway that lead to a b-stage in the centre of the stadium that changed into a shallow pool of water for part of the show. It was simple, focused on her voice and dancing, no gimmicks, it was great. I can't blame her for doing a stadium tour. It looked almost completely full and the first night was sold out according to her website. If she can sell them that well, if I were her, I would do a stadium show of this calibre too. I'd rather perform two nights to huge crowds than 8/9 shows to smaller crowds! I am really not a fan of Madonna, I have never seen her live but I have seen her Sticky & Sweet and Confessions tours on DVD. Whilst staging is impressive, she is a crap singer in my opinion. Smart to re-invent her classics as said, but she needs the whole Cirque-De-Solei going on around her to impress, she simply does not have the vocals to sell tickets alone for the length and size her tours do venue wise. but she can put on a good show with all the stuff going on around her. And props to her, keep it up if you want to sell those tickets. Though I do think it is a shame she decided to do the Rebel Heart Tour in arenas after two hugely successful Stadium tours.
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Post by infofreako on Jul 5, 2016 9:25:53 GMT
Why pick just on poor parsley. I was there Sunday too. It was a poorly conceived show and not a patch on her previous tours. I get the exonomics point about 2 nights in a stadium beting better than 8 in an arena. Ive seen Wembley more packed with far better atmosphere and i too was in the golden circle im glad it was free is about the best i can say about it.
The Rebel Heart tour was ok Madonna would struggle to pack UK stadiums now so has chosen arenas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 9:50:13 GMT
I went to the second night at Wembley Stadium to see Beyoncé and I must say, I don't know what show you saw (though I know you tend to hate almost anything unless you have money in it, and even then you turn on it if it flops) but the Formation concert was a brilliant night out! We were in the Gold Circle (the standing area near to the stage) and holy crap it was phenomenal. She sang her ass off, danced incredibly well with a brilliant group of young dancers and I found the staging itself to be really smart. It was simplistic, with just a rotating Box screen that was just about the size of the stadium it seemed, just huge! And a large stage and runway that lead to a b-stage in the centre of the stadium that changed into a shallow pool of water for part of the show. It was simple, focused on her voice and dancing, no gimmicks, it was great. I can't blame her for doing a stadium tour. It looked almost completely full and the first night was sold out according to her website. If she can sell them that well, if I were her, I would do a stadium show of this calibre too. I'd rather perform two nights to huge crowds than 8/9 shows to smaller crowds! I am really not a fan of Madonna, I have never seen her live but I have seen her Sticky & Sweet and Confessions tours on DVD. Whilst staging is impressive, she is a crap singer in my opinion. Smart to re-invent her classics as said, but she needs the whole Cirque-De-Solei going on around her to impress, she simply does not have the vocals to sell tickets alone for the length and size her tours do venue wise. but she can put on a good show with all the stuff going on around her. And props to her, keep it up if you want to sell those tickets. Though I do think it is a shame she decided to do the Rebel Heart Tour in arenas after two hugely successful Stadium tours. With all due respect I think the number of concerts I attend is likely to be a lot higher than many people and if you haven't even seen Madonna live it is pretty unfair for you to be commenting Her shows are visually quite superior in concept and execution to anything Beyoncé will ever manage This is not intended to be a direct comparison of 2 entirely different artists (and who are both amazing in their own separate ways) My point was that Beyoncé failed to make the jump from arena to stadium in the same impressive way Madonna managed The Formation Tour was the most underwhelming stadium show I have ever seen The vocals are always going to be amplified and I realise you aren't going to such a big show for the singing in all reality This leaves the awful staging and lack of any concept in the show As I mentioned Gaps of just everything going quiet and pauses Just doesn't smack of a slick show I have been lucky enough to see Beyoncé in a small venue only 3000 people when she performed at the Roseland Ballroom in NY Having seen that and then several wonderful arena performances She just doesn't cut it in a massive stadium I don't know if you saw the Mrs Carter Show (the second time it came round to the O2) But it was amazing On a final note just look at the gross per show between Beyoncé and Madonna Madonna wins by a mile every time due to sky high ticket prices which people are willing to pay for spectacle
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 10:07:59 GMT
I went to the second night at Wembley Stadium to see Beyoncé and I must say, I don't know what show you saw (though I know you tend to hate almost anything unless you have money in it, and even then you turn on it if it flops) but the Formation concert was a brilliant night out! We were in the Gold Circle (the standing area near to the stage) and holy crap it was phenomenal. She sang her ass off, danced incredibly well with a brilliant group of young dancers and I found the staging itself to be really smart. It was simplistic, with just a rotating Box screen that was just about the size of the stadium it seemed, just huge! And a large stage and runway that lead to a b-stage in the centre of the stadium that changed into a shallow pool of water for part of the show. It was simple, focused on her voice and dancing, no gimmicks, it was great. I can't blame her for doing a stadium tour. It looked almost completely full and the first night was sold out according to her website. If she can sell them that well, if I were her, I would do a stadium show of this calibre too. I'd rather perform two nights to huge crowds than 8/9 shows to smaller crowds! I am really not a fan of Madonna, I have never seen her live but I have seen her Sticky & Sweet and Confessions tours on DVD. Whilst staging is impressive, she is a crap singer in my opinion. Smart to re-invent her classics as said, but she needs the whole Cirque-De-Solei going on around her to impress, she simply does not have the vocals to sell tickets alone for the length and size her tours do venue wise. but she can put on a good show with all the stuff going on around her. And props to her, keep it up if you want to sell those tickets. Though I do think it is a shame she decided to do the Rebel Heart Tour in arenas after two hugely successful Stadium tours. With all due respect I think the number of concerts I attend is likely to be a lot higher than many people and if you haven't even seen Madonna live it is pretty unfair for you to be commenting Her shows are visually quite superior in concept and execution to anything Beyoncé will ever manage This is not intended to be a direct comparison of 2 entirely different artists (and who are both amazing in their own separate ways) My point was that Beyoncé failed to make the jump from arena to stadium in the same impressive way Madonna managed The Formation Tour was the most underwhelming stadium show I have ever seen The vocals are always going to be amplified and I realise you aren't going to such a big show for the singing in all reality This leaves the awful staging and lack of any concept in the show As I mentioned Gaps of just everything going quiet and pauses Just doesn't smack of a slick show I have been lucky enough to see Beyoncé in a small venue only 3000 people when she performed at the Roseland Ballroom in NY Having seen that and then several wonderful arena performances She just doesn't cut it in a massive stadium I don't know if you saw the Mrs Carter Show (the second time it came round to the O2) But it was amazing On a final note just look at the gross per show between Beyoncé and Madonna Madonna wins by a mile every time due to sky high ticket prices which people are willing to pay for spectacle All fair points, but be aware that you should carefully word your initial comment on this thread. You brought on direct comparisons to Madonna by saying "nothing like a Madonna show" therefore bringing direct comparisons into play.
I agree that arena shows tend to be better but this worked for me and many fans on social media from both shows and the 20+ friends of mine dotted around the stadium. And it was a stunning concert.
I respect your opinion, and the reason somewhat I don't really take your slating of the show too seriously, in all honesty, is because you do bash almost everything you see, on here anyway, so it leads me to believe you don't like anything so it is just expected for you to bash a show. I apologise to you if that is not the case but it is just how it comes across.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 10:18:17 GMT
Yes it's good we all have various opinions
I don't think it's fair to say I hate everything though and not elaborate or further engage and comment on things I have enjoyed
This is being selective and making a generalisation
There are things I enjoy and post about
No matter how few
But I don't dislike everything I see
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