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Post by anthony40 on Jul 12, 2023 19:10:52 GMT
Get ready for Craig's droll 'That was a dancing disaaaaaster, darling!', Motsi sas and Anton's 'That was marveloouuus!'
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 23:57:37 GMT
Hopefully there will be a nice tribute to the late great Len in the launch show.
If you wanted another leftfield celeb how about Sir Brucie's widow - she used to do some dances with him back in the day on the Generation Game, was an ex Miss World and is still an attractive older lady.
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Post by vdcni on Jul 13, 2023 7:26:25 GMT
Apparently Zara McDermott of Love Island "fame" has been signed up for this year's Strictly. I've never watched Love Island after the short lived celeb version in the mid 2000's and I'm only aware of the names of the higher profile contestants when they are mentioned in the wider showbiz press and a few who did Dancing On Ice. Strictly have used reality show contestants before and social media personalities but a Love Islander would be a first. I'm sure there are people on here who watch Love Island if only to see attractive people parading around in swimwear if we have nothing better to do. But just having body beautiful contestants so there I find goes against the wider diversity and acceptance that the media embraces when it wants to. I always found Big Brother far more interesting, sure you had some babes and hunks but you also had diverse and interesting people and that gave us early winners from sectors which were under represented at the time. I don't know whether she really has been but it would be typical of Strictly to pick someone from Love Island just when it's ratings are sinking.
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Post by A.Ham on Jul 13, 2023 7:38:47 GMT
I guess an ex-Love Island contestant appeals to a certain demographic, and the Strictly team do seem to try and tick a wide range of boxes with their contestant selections. I suppose it’s one of the reasons the show has such wide appeal, as across the 15 contestants there’s always somebody you know and like, whatever your age or tastes.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jul 13, 2023 7:50:37 GMT
I don't see Zara as any worse than having Mark Wright on it, in fact I'd say she is a better choice.
I'm not a fan of hers as all, and her bf Sam is incredibly annoying so it could be worse. But she has grown since Love Island into having a big social media following, worked for the bbc doing one (maybe two) documentaries and has been working with some charities.
I'd really like to see Radzi Chinyanganya on it, admittedly for superficial reasons lol he is a good presenter too though. But he not long ago did dancing on ice and seems quite tied to itv at the moment
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 13, 2023 8:26:37 GMT
I'm gonna throw another name in the mix. What about Ronan Kemp? He's on the radio and his on-screen presence is ever increasing with presenting The One Show and appearing on Celebrity Gogglebox with his Dad.
It could be the perfect vehicle to raise his profile even further.
Just a thought.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 13, 2023 8:28:55 GMT
Don't forget, regardless of who is announced, to cover most demographics usually there a sporting person, a disabled person, gay/lesbian, a more mature individual, someone young and perky, a comedian, someone black/Asian, someone from either Eastenders or Casualty- have I miss anyone? Transgender or non binary person?
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Post by NorthernAlien on Jul 13, 2023 9:06:00 GMT
Don't forget, regardless of who is announced, to cover most demographics usually there a sporting person, a disabled person, gay/lesbian, a more mature individual, someone young and perky, a comedian, someone black/Asian, someone from either Eastenders or Casualty- have I miss anyone? Transgender or non binary person? Someone who appears regularly on a show on either BBC1, ITV, C4 or C5 which begins broadcasting before 2pm each day. And Eastenders or Casualty are usually in rotation with Corrie, or sometimes Emmerdale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2023 20:08:00 GMT
Radzi again would be a good choice and if they could get Roman they would be delighted. How about having his mum or dad or even both as contestants too.
I'd fully support the idea of a trans or non binary contestant but not someone who just decided to change their pronouns. Ideally maybe one of the Drag Queens like Davina De Campo or Ginny Lemon perhaps. Eddie Izzard would be amazing but is likely too busy.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 16, 2023 19:47:26 GMT
Latest rumour I heard was Angela Rippon and that she would be Strictly's oldest contestant.
But I believe she has some previous dance experience, dancing with Morecombe & Wise back in the day.
What about Joe Swash? Or Stacey Solomon?
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Post by alece10 on Jul 16, 2023 20:26:13 GMT
Latest rumour I heard was Angela Rippon and that she would be Strictly's oldest contestant. But I believe she has some previous dance experience, dancing with Morecombe & Wise back in the day. What about Joe Swash? Or Stacey Solomon? An iconic sketch with her dancing to Let's Face The Music And Dance. I believe she studied ballet when she was young.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 21:17:19 GMT
Yep saw it on DM Online about Angela. She still does Rip Off Britain and spots on Morning Live where she was even partaking in the daily Strictly workout last week and still seemed very subtle. She is a TV legend and will be a good choice IMO.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 17, 2023 4:25:06 GMT
You already have seen her do it! Oh god, I've lost a lot of Strictly points! Is it in the rules you can not compete twice? Could be this years twist
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 12:21:35 GMT
Oh god, I've lost a lot of Strictly points! Is it in the rules you can not compete twice? Could be this years twist They have previous contestants back for the Festive Special and some who have done the Festive or Children in Need specials have then been full contestants later maybe having seen how they went. I could see someone who had to pull out during the series maybe returning a few years later but it hasn't happened yet. I wouldn't have an issue with this personally but I'd not want returning contestants who had been voted off before to be given another go unless they did some sort of "All Star" series like they did with the Jungle.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jul 17, 2023 15:23:46 GMT
Is it in the rules you can not compete twice? Could be this years twist They have previous contestants back for the Festive Special and some who have done the Festive or Children in Need specials have then been full contestants later maybe having seen how they went. I could see someone who had to pull out during the series maybe returning a few years later but it hasn't happened yet. I wouldn't have an issue with this personally but I'd not want returning contestants who had been voted off before to be given another go unless they did some sort of "All Star" series like they did with the Jungle. Oh that is a good one. Champion of Champions series
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 19, 2023 14:41:50 GMT
Is anyone yet ready for trying to see beyond Claudia's fringe?
Or Tess saying (as she always does) 'the standard just gets better and better every year!'
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Post by newda on Jul 19, 2023 16:27:08 GMT
The Daily Fail reckons Layton Williams has signed up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 19:42:44 GMT
Adam Thomas from Emmerdale and Waterloo Road has apparently been signed up to. Layton would be my favourite to win it if the rumours are true given his theatre background, he could certainly cut some moves in Hairspray earlier in his career. Pairing him with Johannes is too obvious and won't happen but it would be fabulous fun if it did happen. I don't see why the DM has to be negative about him having dance training, I'll enjoy watching him for one if the rumours are true.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Jul 19, 2023 20:52:10 GMT
I'm actually with the mail on this one. It seems ridiculous to have someone with so much recent training and professional dance experience.
That said I'm not sure Layton would do well due to the likeability, or lack of it. unless he manages to keep the ego in check somehow.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 19, 2023 20:56:40 GMT
He would suffer the same fate as the majority of trained dancers. High scores from the judges and regular humiliation at the hands of the voting public
Why put yourself through it?
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 20, 2023 21:13:17 GMT
I'd like a few sportspeople I think. The ones who don't have dance training but are fit and competitive.
Stuart Broad might be good in a couple of years (his fiancée is Molly King so would be nice to see her in the audience). If they had Alistair Cook I'd be very happy.
It's all gone a bit "oh everybody is wonderful, I'm just here to have a good time" recently. I think some competitive ones who aren't trained dancers would be good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 22:36:46 GMT
The cricketers would be tied up until the end of the season in September although Mark Ramprakash skipped a couple of games when he did the show and won it. England have the World Cup coming up in October and lots of players are in the franchise leagues but there are retired players who could easily do it.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 21, 2023 21:23:02 GMT
It was the retired ones I was thinking of more, although I suppose a lot of the higher profile ones will be commentating.
I don't mind which sport really but I feel an England cricketer would be a nice middle ground between "footballers would want too much money" and "I vaguely remember this person at the Olympics five/eleven/twenty three years ago".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2023 21:28:30 GMT
A lot of the top players retired players commentate, have other media roles or do coaching but there would be some decent names available.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 22, 2023 8:36:05 GMT
Just seen that Amy D's doctors have discovered more tumours. Very sad news indeed.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 22, 2023 15:23:56 GMT
Genuine question here.
Although the routine may only be 90 seconds long, my understanding is that you can choreograph it however you wish however it must include the basic steps of the dance they are performing.
I'm not an expert with regards to the 'rules' of ballroom but it is my understanding that the man may put his around around the woman's waist, the woman puts her hand on the man's shoulder, etc.
Forgive my ignorance but when it's a same sex couple, in terms of the rules and choreography is one still the man and the woman? Or is it a case that it's adapted in such a way that throughout the routine, each will take on both the male and female parts?
I have been watching Strictly (pretty much) ever season since I got here and same sex pairing was bound to happen, and I think it's been introduced quite well, and the show is better for it.
And the routines are so dynamic that I, as the general viewing public, wouldn't know if either are adopting the male or female roles, thus the question.
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Post by robertb213 on Jul 22, 2023 22:07:36 GMT
My understanding is that male celebs learn to lead their pro, and female celebs learn to be led by their pro, so they'd adopt whichever positioning applies. Could be wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2023 22:08:34 GMT
Just seen that Amy D's doctors have discovered more tumours. Very sad news indeed. Life is just so unfair, a lovely person like Amy having to suffer this cruel and vicious disease. I'm sure she is in everyone's thoughts and we all hope she can kick cancer in the balls and live a long and happy life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2023 22:19:56 GMT
Genuine question here. Although the routine may only be 90 seconds long, my understanding is that you can choreograph it however you wish however it must include the basic steps of the dance they are performing. I'm not an expert with regards to the 'rules' of ballroom but it is my understanding that the man may put his around around the woman's waist, the woman puts her hand on the man's shoulder, etc. Forgive my ignorance but when it's a same sex couple, in terms of the rules and choreography is one still the man and the woman? Or is it a case that it's adapted in such a way that throughout the routine, each will take on both the male and female parts? I have been watching Strictly (pretty much) ever season since I got here and same sex pairing was bound to happen, and I think it's been introduced quite well, and the show is better for it. And the routines are so dynamic that I, as the general viewing public, wouldn't know if either are adopting the male or female roles, thus the question. The man should lead in ballroom so it is considered harder for male celebs and for a female pro to move a male partner around. A good male pro can certainly move a willing and lighter female celeb around although there have been some famous exceptions. There has never been a rule that certain steps for each dance must be included but Len would always give marks for including them and Kevin Clifton said he put certain moves in that he knew Len would like. Craig maybe marks on the performance side more but Anton and Shirley probably mark for content more. Motsi may be in the middle IMO. The hold and posture gets marks, with same sex couples I think the rules are relaxed a bit but then mixed couples are likely given more leeway as their pros would argue they want the freedom too. The show has maybe moved away from the traditional marking they do in dance competitions to more of the performance side. But the trick might still be to do steps you can do and not try to do stuff you cannot and end up on your backside. The difficulty may be less but if you do a clean round you'll likely get better scores. This is only my opinion but I hope it answers some of your questions Anthony.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 23, 2023 7:33:38 GMT
Patterns of steps will have a leader role and a follower role.
In general, men will take the leader role and women the follower. You can dance reverse role, but to be honest it isn't really that practical — I've done it socially for fun, and it's often really hard to see over the man's shoulder! It's hardly ever done competitively because (a) it's pretty much impossible to get the same drive and movement so it doesn't look as good and you won't do well and (b) some circuits don't allow it.
In same-sex either partner can take either role. At lower levels where you dance "syllabus steps" you can't swap mid-routine because if you're the leader you have to dance the leader's patterns. At open levels, role-switching mid-dance is possible. It isn't often done in ballroom because you aren't allowed to break hold so it's quite tricky to transition between them! You have to go through a sort of circle arms position. In Latin it's much easier. Tbh in a lot of higher level girl/girl Latin routines I've seen competitively, they mirror or dance side-by-side so much that there isn't really much of a difference between lead and follow anyway.
On Strictly because they can separate you can role switch easily in both ballroom and Latin. I think it'll probably depend on what the celeb likes and found easier — I think John Whaite mainly danced as one role (I'd have to check which!), but I'm sure Nicola Adams did both quite a bit.
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