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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 22:40:01 GMT
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Post by lonlad on Mar 11, 2019 23:52:54 GMT
Oh please god no .... she's an OK actress but SHYLOCK? on what planet?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 7:10:53 GMT
Oh please god no .... she's an OK actress but SHYLOCK? on what planet? I don't think I have seen The Merchant of Venice before, what would be the problem with her playing the role?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 8:33:33 GMT
Oh please god no .... she's an OK actress but SHYLOCK? on what planet? I don't think I have seen The Merchant of Venice before, what would be the problem with her playing the role? Genuinely curious...I've seen Merchant several times and can't think of any reason why on paper she isn't a great fit for the role. Also given her current court case regarding Anti-Semitism, it's obviously a political statement of sorts on her part taking the role, and one which I fully support, and could be a really interesting production with that context as well.
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Post by altamont on Mar 12, 2019 11:32:07 GMT
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Post by lynette on Mar 12, 2019 18:21:37 GMT
Interesting, a woman moneylender in Renaissance Venice. Not impossible and throwing up or highlighting variations of prejudice. But maybe they will change other genders and also the setting and time etc. She is a good actress, should be allowed a meaty part.
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Post by altamont on Mar 12, 2019 18:23:18 GMT
Interesting, a woman moneylender in Renaissance Venice. Not impossible and throwing up or highlighting variations of prejudice. But maybe they will change other genders and also the setting and time etc. She is a good actress, should be allowed a meaty part. It's planned to be set in 1930's East End of London
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 18:36:25 GMT
Interesting, a woman moneylender in Renaissance Venice. Not impossible and throwing up or highlighting variations of prejudice. But maybe they will change other genders and also the setting and time etc. She is a good actress, should be allowed a meaty part. It's planned to be set in 1930's East End of London Ooh that's a really interesting setting!
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 12, 2019 21:57:52 GMT
Interesting, a woman moneylender in Renaissance Venice. Not impossible and throwing up or highlighting variations of prejudice. But maybe they will change other genders and also the setting and time etc. She is a good actress, should be allowed a meaty part. It's planned to be set in 1930's East End of London Pie + Mash + Liquor.
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Post by lynette on Mar 13, 2019 0:10:35 GMT
It's planned to be set in 1930's East End of London Pie + Mash + Liquor. So blackshirts and all that, eh? Might be good.
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Post by altamont on Feb 28, 2020 8:45:11 GMT
At the Nuffield City in Southampton 4th-19th September
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Post by bordeaux on Feb 28, 2020 13:09:52 GMT
I don't think I have seen The Merchant of Venice before, what would be the problem with her playing the role? Genuinely curious...I've seen Merchant several times and can't think of any reason why on paper she isn't a great fit for the role. Also given her current court case regarding Anti-Semitism, it's obviously a political statement of sorts on her part taking the role, and one which I fully support, and could be a really interesting production with that context as well. I don't know her but the issue is presumably how much Shakespeare experience she has? Has she done several middle-sized roles that would prepare for as challenging a one as Shylock?
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Post by Jan on Feb 28, 2020 16:36:44 GMT
At Kingston 3-14 November.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Feb 28, 2020 17:24:40 GMT
She was a member of the RSC ensemble (back when they did ensembles) for two years when she first graduated from drama school. Admittedly she’s done very little Shakespeare professionally but she’s a classically trained actress and has a solid stage CV.
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Post by floorshow on Mar 2, 2020 10:46:03 GMT
Tempting if it comes within range. I can't see any reason why she wouldn't be good and a 30s London production adds a bit of spice.
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Post by TallPaul on Mar 2, 2020 13:11:54 GMT
Also touring to Leeds Playhouse from 20 to 31 October. This is from its website:
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Post by lynette on Mar 2, 2020 19:36:20 GMT
Looks good.
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Post by david on Mar 2, 2020 20:13:23 GMT
I’ll certainly be booking for this when tickets become available for the Liverpool Playhouse. The setting for the production is certainly interesting. The only other version of the play I’ve seen is ironically at the same theatre a few years ago with Jonathan Pyrce as Shylock.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Mar 3, 2020 10:36:08 GMT
@theatremonkey will be doing the same.
Strangely, despite being most probably my closest Theatre due to Public Transport being primarily spokes into Central London this is a Theatre which it is easier and quicker to drive to.
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Post by lynette on Mar 3, 2020 11:37:22 GMT
Is Watford the nearest to London? I can’t be bothered to drive there.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Mar 3, 2020 12:28:43 GMT
Either Watford or Kingston, depending if you’re in North or South London.
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Post by lynette on Mar 3, 2020 16:26:38 GMT
Too faaaar....
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Post by showgirl on Mar 5, 2020 4:32:10 GMT
Re venues, don't forget that Watford Jcn has a fast service to/from Euston & amother from East Croydon to Milton Keynes which calls there, avoiding a London change. Just don't get on an all-stations service by mistake as they take an hour, not 15 - 20 minutes. Then a very straightforward brisk 5 - 10 minute walk to the Palace.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 5, 2020 4:34:09 GMT
Also, for cheap London area ticket offers: £10 "Secret Seats" at the Rose, Kingston & cheap matinees for seniors at Watford Palace.
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Post by learfan on Mar 5, 2020 6:56:10 GMT
Re venues, don't forget that Watford Jcn has a fast service to/from Euston & amother from East Croydon to Milton Keynes which calls there, avoiding a London change. Just don't get on an all-stations service by mistake as they take an hour, not 15 - 20 minutes. Then a very straightforward brisk 5 - 10 minute walk to the Palace. Yes i wondered why everyone was talking about going by tube when the fast train is obviously the best way to get there!
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Post by tonyloco on Mar 5, 2020 11:55:37 GMT
Thinking about The Merchant of Venice, I saw a totally traditional production in Sydney in the late 1950s starring Robert Helpmann as Shylock and Katharine Hepburn as Portia.
These days I expect Hepburn would play Shylock, but would Helpmann play Portia? Probably!
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Post by tonyloco on Mar 5, 2020 22:53:36 GMT
Katharine Hepburn as Portia And yet again our beloved tonyloco drops a jealousy bomb on us all from on high... oh wow, Tony, just, wow! Yes. It was in 1955 and a complete company from the Old Vic toured Australia with rather lavish traditional productions of The Merchant of Venice, Measure for Measure and The Taming of the Shrew. Robert Helpmann and Katharine Hepburn played the leads in all three plays and they were directed by Michael Benthall. It was a six-month tour of all the capital cities. As a wide-eyed 18-year-old I saw all three productions and was blown away by the magnificence of it all. In the 1950s the professional theatre in Sydney did very few productions of Shakespeare or the classics so this visit of the Old Vic with three Shakespeare Plays was a major theatrical event and to get to see Helpmann and especially Hepburn in those iconic roles was something really special – and they didn't disappoint. In those days nobody worried about the morality of these particular plays regarding their treatment of women or Jews – they were just plays for entertainment – and the season was warmly welcomed by the critics and the public alike and my memories of seeing the plays remain vivid some 65 years later.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 6, 2020 4:56:00 GMT
No concerns re travel or ticket cost but Tracy Ann Oberman does give me pause as in the last production in which I saw her (Mother Of Him, last autumn at the Park Theatre), she gave a very one-note performance which made the play a slog to endure. It may have been the direction (or lack of it) but I will wait for the reviews this time.
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Post by Jan on Mar 6, 2020 7:35:18 GMT
Yes. It was in 1955 …… ….. In the 1950s the professional theatre in Sydney did very few productions of Shakespeare or the classics so this visit of the Old Vic with three Shakespeare Plays was a major theatrical event Have you read "Inside Trader" by Trader Faulkner (Australian actor born 1927) ? He reports on the visit by Tyrone Guthrie to Australia in 1949 to advise them on setting up a National Theatre - his report was rather disobliging ! "At that time Tyrone Guthrie was visiting Australia to advise on the possibility of forming an Australian National Theatre. In Britain, Guthrie had directed all the greats – Olivier, Guinness, Gielgud, and Richardson – in some of the most famous productions of the 1930s and 40s. In Australia, however, he was intensely disliked for having candidly told his hosts, ‘Well, ladies and gentlemen, as regards an Australian national theatre, you’re simply not yet ready. So you’d better put that idea down the lavatory and pull the chain.’ This was said at a reception in his honour, after his having seen what Australia had to offer theatrically."
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Post by tonyloco on Mar 6, 2020 10:55:12 GMT
Yes. It was in 1955 …… ….. In the 1950s the professional theatre in Sydney did very few productions of Shakespeare or the classics so this visit of the Old Vic with three Shakespeare Plays was a major theatrical event Have you read "Inside Trader" by Trader Faulkner (Australian actor born 1927) ? He reports on the visit by Tyrone Guthrie to Australia in 1949 to advise them on setting up a National Theatre - his report was rather disobliging ! "At that time Tyrone Guthrie was visiting Australia to advise on the possibility of forming an Australian National Theatre. In Britain, Guthrie had directed all the greats – Olivier, Guinness, Gielgud, and Richardson – in some of the most famous productions of the 1930s and 40s. In Australia, however, he was intensely disliked for having candidly told his hosts, ‘Well, ladies and gentlemen, as regards an Australian national theatre, you’re simply not yet ready. So you’d better put that idea down the lavatory and pull the chain.’ This was said at a reception in his honour, after his having seen what Australia had to offer theatrically." Brilliant! No, I am not familiar with "Inside Trader" but I will look it out I think Guthrie was talking sense, but he might have expressed it a bit more politely. In fact, in 1954 the Elizabethan Theatre Trust was established as a kind of Australian National Theatre but as well as drama they also supported opera and ballet in which they were more successful than drama. But before I left Australia in 1960, the Trust had put on, amongst other plays, a production of Medea starring Judith Anderson, Julius Caesar (Shakespeare), Ray Lawler's Australian play The Summer of the Seventeenth Doll and a memorable version of Long Day's Journey into Night which was quite overwhelming. But in 1949 the commercial theatre, certainly in Sydney, was putting on only the latest American musical comedies, usually with imported stars, and the flimsiest West End comedies so I can imagine how Guthrie felt after he saw the state of commercial theatre there at that time. But in defence of my Aussie pals, I should say that there were some outstandingly good local actors and actresses who worked on the radio and Guthrie may not have been aware of this. Sorry but I seem to have hijacked this thread away from Tracy Ann Oberman as Shylock!
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